Perharps I should have stayed longer!

I have Fri and Sat free so if you guys have a London meetup let me know

Will do mate.

Met up with SmileyK and Stein from the forum in central London last night. First time I've met SmileyK...cool guy.

Stein arrived later in a spiderman suit. By this time SmileyK and me were chatting to a couple of girls. They were a good laugh. The girl I ended up talking to most was intelligent and quite intellectual. She sang me a song she said her scots grandad taught her when she was a kid. She was sweet and quite cute. Early in the convo she had revealed that she had been on holiday with her boyfriend and after that they had decided to move in together. I wondered if they were just entertaining us to get a drink bought. I don't think so though I did get them a drink.

We persuaded Stein to put the head part of his suit on. Cool outfit btw Stein...phone pics were taken.

We were standing outside in the busy smoking area which was under a gap between two large umbrellas so the rain was dripping down on us which was a bit distracting. but we ploughed on.

The two girls left quite early so the three of us went inside and had a laugh and chat. It was good fun. We had some serious discussion about some of the bollocks that is written, talked about and supposedly practiced by PUAs and aspiring PUAs. But there was respect given to Tyler & Co.

When I went to the bar to get drinks in there were two young blonde girls in front of me making a lot of noise. I told them to settle down in my sternest voice just to get their attention. One of them, the better looking one, turned around and gave me a smile and stare. So I was thinking we might get talking. Then she started trying to mimic my accent...it was such a bad attempt at a scots accent (more Indian than scots) it wasn't funny just feckin annoying.

Anyway instead of coming straight back at her with a neg of my own I just stood there dumbfounded. This girl wouldn't stop and eventually her friend told her to dial it down a bit as she was obviously embarrassing me and her friend with her immature and unattractive behaviour.

Back with the guys we watched this good looking guy just sarging like mad around any female groups that were left in the bar (it was starting to empty out by this time). He was quite pissed I think and really didn't give a shit, scared a few women away, attracted others, moved onto the next group, spinning around in quite a cool dance move. I think we all had a sneaking admiration for this guy just utterly going for it without a care in the world.

After we headed our separate ways I had my usual adventures getting home. I ended up in a shop doorway with this woman who wanted to go back to my hotel to give me a massage and sex she said in very broken english. I assumed she was a hooker. She wouldn't believe me that I wasn't staying in a hotel and wasn't a tourist. I realised later my phone was gone. Sleight of hand she must have got it out of my coat's breast pocket while she was putting her knee up into my groin and her hands everywhere (including my balls) trying (and succeeding) to get me excited. I realise now this was probably just a ploy to distract me. But I literally had to push her away. If she had the phone you'd think she would have left immediately before I realised it was gone. She even followed me to the wrickshaw I got and tried to get in. I had to physically force her back out. She was a nutter.

Maybe it wasn't her but I don't see any other way the phone could have gone missing. It seems too much of a coincidence. I thought the pocket was buttoned but it probably wasn't. That's two £350 phones stolen within a month! But you learn by mistakes and I need to wise up when out in cities at night on my own, avoid crazy women, and buy a cheap phone or get insurance cover. When I go in the phone shop in a little while the guy is gonna be like "oh no... again?"

I ended up getting a wrickshaw to the station again. But it was slow , wet and horrible journey. Worse cause I got in my head about the missing phone. But on the train I had some good banter with 3 northern girls and a guy from my town. One of the girls kept eyeing me up but then I noticed her wedding ring. They got off the stop before mine. The married one waved and said something to me as she got off but by this time I had my earphones in and didn't hear.

Aside from the cheeky girl / crazy hooker / phone crap I enjoyed last night because I really feel like I'm coming out of my shell more on these nights out. I'm relaxing more and being myself. The worst thing I could right do now I think is be put off by the annoying stuff. When the going gets tough and all that!

Mate thanks for writing the report, detailed and a good read.
I met you the other week, looking forward to getting out at some point again!
Phone thing sucks but I wonder are you fishing in the right pond at the moment?
I have noticed astonishing differences in London in terms of clientele, demographics and attitude/receptiveness.
It may be stating the obvious but switching up the venue/area and avoiding what starts becoming personal away grounds where you never get a point metaphorically speaking(eg tiger tiger!) has marked results and quick.
I remember a guy I met off here 2 years ago raved about ceilidh nights for example that occur in LOndon if you Google.
Whilst I am not advocating we all shuffle off to do the GAy Gordon he was reaping the dividends as being the well dressed, socially together non oddity amongst the lines of girls who were up for dancing and more, he was late 40s I remember too.
Again may be stating the obvious but it's easy to get stuck into a routine of hitting the same haunts when a shake up could accelerate progress.
Just my two penneth and see you soon fella.

Yeah mate, as coincidence, I've been reading Mark Manson's book Models (which I think is good btw) and he covers demographics. I have to admit I've largely ignored this aspect...that social interactions are contextual, like attracts like, etc. I'm making the effort of going out in London because there seems to be so many more possibilities than locally which is the easiest but not the best option for me. But I've just been like "right girls, I'm here now...let the attraction commence!". But demographics can make a huge difference I reckon to results.

I think single people and couples without children, who choose to live in London, tend to be there because there's a lot of choice of places to go out and they like going out. But I've not really put any effort in to researching where what's going on. I'll see what I can find out and will see you soon bud.

Out local tonight (Saturday). Had a good night chatting with my mates and chilling. Like all my local nights I was expecting nothing (but I can never stop myself having hope that it will be party central, and I'll go home with the hottest hottie in the bar...hope springs eternal haha). The main thing of note on the woman front was that I'm noticing now if I'm patient enough women will approach me. I'm becoming more of a familiar sight around the local hangouts. One woman chatted me up for about 20 mins.

She was cute, in a mature way, had very generous lips coated in scarlet lipstick and black hair, low cut top on, cleavage, etc...so that's enough for me. And the conversation we had was ace. The more we chatted the more she turned me on.

The thing that struck me the most was that at first all I could see was these scarlet lips moving and the cool blue eyes. But then I was actually listening to what she was saying. And she took me on a nice journey with her words. We talked about how accents change as you move across the UK. I'm interested to know if there are other women like this about. good looking, mature, intelligent, interesting and who can express themselves confidently. I need to find where they are.

But her man was sitting nearby like a chode and watching and starting to get a bit pissed off at me. I could tell. He came up and was talking to me but he seemed to be trying to impress me and get in my goodbooks (my self development has been aimed at getting me away from acting like that). I recognise this now as being insecurity. But he was telling me he was connected to a dangerous family or something. Was this to scare me off? ooh I was quivering in me boots.

This woman, who was attractive (I wanted to fuck her) wanted me to fuck her, there's no doubt about that. I'm just not ruthless or clever or whatever enough yet to go and actually take it.

Maybe this kind of thing is for the master stage of PUA or maybe I just need to be a bit more aggressive in taking what I want. I'm still too pussy about the consequences and all that. But at the same time I don't ever want to get in a fight over some woman I don't even know. There were some younger guys outside the bar at the end of the night "stagging" and I'm past that stage. It was good entertainment though as a spectator sport. If I did get the attentions of a real hottie then I would have plenty of haters wouldn't I?

This is the danger of trying to pull on your own doorstep (and why I don't try to do it). It's not as bad as the workplace but there's similar issues. You just need to be more careful than in a place where nobody knows you. But I'm just looking to make friends and enjoy myself. That can't be a bad thing. There's always the possibility of hooking up one night when I'm not even trying.

Nice field report, can relate to a lot in that. Especially when I'm talking to a girl and I know she wants me t fuck her but I don't show enough intent.

I remember telling the barmaid she had a sexy accent just as we were leaving the first bar we were in. She shouted after me "what?". Pretty sure she heard me ok cause my mates all laughed and went oooh!. Maybe she just wanted me to say it again. But I scuttled outside. Still it was better than nothing I suppose. A small step in the right direction. You have to pose some kind of threat and not be too nice but not nasty either obviously. I'm starting to have more of a mindset of "I'm not here to be your friend". I just need to show it more in what I say and do.

One thing I'm tending to do now is not smile until after they smile. I also keep the eye contact pretty intense, no blinking. I'm realising simple things like that (micro-behaviours) make a big difference in the impression your giving the girl, especially at the start of an interaction. Unless they've got wet panties for you, you can slip into her 'friend' category very quickly. Minutes I reckon, then it's not impossible but it's very difficult to get out of that. So better to err on the side of aggression. You can always dial it down a bit depending on the reaction. It doesn't seem to work the other way around.

Friday 15 Nov

Night out in London with a few guys from the forum: MarkUK, Sugarspin, SmileyK, Tebbs and Top Hat.

On the way to the first venue Top Hat took off and did a few day game style stops on women that passed us in the street.

We have a drink in a couple of bars then head to a nearby club. We split into twos. Soon we notice MarkUK and SmileyK are sitting with two girls at a table. Me and Sugarspin move around quite a bit but find it hard to get off the starting blocks. Lost sight of where the other two went but I bumped into them later on.

We get chatting to a couple of girls. One of them is married. The other one seems up for talking and she's touching my arm a lot. But for some reason it fizzles out. The two of them go to the bathroom. I head off looking for Sugarspin.

I go outside for a cigarette and talk to a couple of girls out there. A guy that was there negged one of the girls and she was really offended (I don't think he meant it to be a neg) and I think she assumed we were together so her and her mate moved away from me. It had been going well too. The guy apologised to her then to me. I told him not to worry about it.

Back inside now I'm feeling more in the zone and just talk to any girls that I pass. If they're not responsive I move on quickly to the next one. I find my wing again and we have a chat about stuff then chat to some girls at the bar. I become a bit outcome attached and have decided I'm going to NC the one I'm talking to. She says no but offers me her email addy instead.

We meet up with some of the other guys who are still there and head off home. I get on the tube going in the wrong direction. When I get off to go back the way I came the line is closing for engineering work so I get a cab to the rail station.

I've missed the train and a long wait ahead so I find a bar nearby that's still open. There's some kind of party going on in here, so I just merge into the goings on. Talk to quite a few girls but I'm getting too drunk to hold a decent convo.

Eventually I head back to the station and end up sharing a cab with a few guys who are going in my direction.

Thoughts on the night:

A good night. It was good being in a bunch of like minded guys. Maybe that pressure made me nervy at the start and I waited too long to do the first approach, even though I was getting some IoI's. But eventually I did some approaches, talked to quite a few girls and finally closed one (a small triumph for me!). I should have got the first girls number when I could see it was starting to fizzle out then moved on. But I'm getting some reference experiences now to work with. Needing a lot more though.