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Default 17-05-2012, 09:13 PM

facebook is a lonely bullshit place


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Default 17-05-2012, 11:49 PM

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facebook is a lonely bullshit place
haha so true! Its ironic its called a social networking place when all you're doing is distancing yourself from people.

Even girls you speak to are only putting you into to "Friends/flirt on Fb but not speak to you in person" zone.

In fact, as I'm typing, isn't it odd that pua is considered weird yet things like facebook aren't? Not that I care.
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Default 17-05-2012, 11:57 PM

Thursday 17th May 2012

Just back from a very short solo night out at 5th Avenue. I turned up though and thats all that matters.

As soon as I got near the club I froze up, nearly walked away. Then I forced myself to walk over, really self-conscious, got in and just stood about it wasn't very busy (around 11ish). Then I got really paranoid/aware that people were noticing me by myself and obviously very nervous/anxious and stifled.

Then some guy tried tooling on my but I just nudged him away then I left. Probably in there for no more than 30 minutes but I turned up. It was getting busier as I left, so next time I will go there a bit later 12-3 period. Its £1 to get in, I can't miss out on a night so cheap in Manchester.

On these solo sarges I like it to be so busy I can be 'lost' in there, when its not so busy I feel way too on show.

I get thoughts like even if i did speak to this girl its only going to last 20 seconds then for the rest of the night she'll see me standing by myself.

Tomorrow guys are out in Manchester such as Uber and I'm guessing Sapmi, Steve and possibly Joe Fresh! Will be fun

Might turn up to Improv, kinda nervous to turn up Seems fun though and I'm sure I'll meet a few people who go out too.
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Default 18-05-2012, 02:00 AM

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I get thoughts like even if i did speak to this girl its only going to last 20 seconds then for the rest of the night she'll see me standing by myself.
I fucking lol'd at this bigtime i just imagined "the weird creepy guy all alone in the corner" hahaha.

But its only ONE girl. Dont let her see u standing all alone, let her see u talking to the next girl, & the next girl etc etc.

Even if ur simply using the same opening line on every chick u see "u look fucking incredible" is much better than standing around.

If u feel paranoid, u look paranoid.


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Default 18-05-2012, 02:05 AM

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I fucking lol'd at this bigtime i just imagined "the weird creepy guy all alone in the corner" hahaha.

But its only ONE girl. Dont let her see u standing all alone, let her see u talking to the next girl, & the next girl etc etc.

Even if ur simply using the same opening line on every chick u see "u look fucking incredible" is much better than standing around.

If u feel paranoid, u look paranoid.
I wish i could do that but I freeze up and basically I couldn't open anyone and even when I can its few and far between :/

Hopefully with time this will improve, Im naturally very inhead.
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Default 18-05-2012, 07:27 AM

It's a catch 22 sort of situation, but think of it this way. If you do that to 5 girls, hang in on the convo for around 2mins each at least, then all the other people will see you having spent the first 10-15 mins in the club, talking to a shit load of bitches.

Your are now that awesome guy who seems to know a load of girls. Then you'll feel good about yourself as you'll have made a few girls laugh, got on good name terms. Also now you know that if you have another quite peroid soon, you can go back and talk to some of those earlier girls again.

Never stand alone at the bar (or anywhere) as it just looks creepy. Heck even if you talk to the bouncers/bar staff for a bit, get on their good side so that in future you feel like you own the club.
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Default 19-05-2012, 06:11 PM

Friday 18th May 2012

Got out late into Manchester and got into 5th avenue and straight away spoke to some girl whilst waiting to put my jacket in the cloakroom (around 2minutes), saw Sapmi and met his wing Tricks.

Was stalling on starting conversation other than saying hey to some guy at the bar, ended up chatting to a fat girl for a while but I wasn't going to take it anywhere.

So far my openers are things like "Hey how's your night going?", "Hey what are you drinking?", "What are you celebrating tonight" type stuff.

BUT the main thing I noticed through-out the night was I was making excuses to speak to girls rather than just having them for the sake of conversation, like one was a 2set about signal in the club and how I'd lost my friends (kinda true though) and another was 3 girls about prices of drinks and then ejected. They were the hottest of the night really.

The lesson I'm learning is to really just make conversation with everyone around you,socialise socialise,socialise, don't eject from girls, don't eject from girls.

Also I think I spent to much time hanging around with Sapmi and Tricks, I should have been speaking to more girls. Although we did have a good interaction with these 3 girls although one of them was being annoying and too sarcastic, i went along with her 'frame' when really I should have told her to stfu and act normal or we're leaving.

May sound harsh but cba putting up with people who aren't going to have a real conversation with you.

Anyway it was towards the end of the night 2:30 that I started to feel really comfortable in the club. Definitely feel better with wings - no suprise.

So tonight I'm going to just start conversations with everybody around me, last night I missed way too many. Also lines are great places for speaking to people as they're stuck with you! :P Also its quiet and away from the club vibe.

OH and I will not buy any alcohol tonight, last night I was being a bit self concious with how much water I was buying and ended up buying a lot of drinks. Hydration and sober ftw

Peace.
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Default 19-05-2012, 06:13 PM

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By the way well done for going out and putting you out there, it is at least one step in right direction.
Thanks Amit1207! Thats my only 'skill', is that I'm prepared to go out every night. I would say day but right now my sleeping pattern is quiet literally nocturnal. Wake up around 5/6 lol.
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Default 20-05-2012, 08:16 PM

Okay going to start setting more objectives/newbie missions whilst out.

So far Ive got 5 girls a day during the DAYTIME: This can be done in my local town rather than going to Manchester. I used to be way too scared I'd be seen/known by people I know but now its okay.

And at night in the club, I will set challenges like "Introduce myself to 12 girls" or w/e. "No more than a minute between each girl/person I talk to" or w/e.

Watched Fight Club last night, since I was about 15 its always had a profound effect on me for days/weeks afterwards. Definitely as important to your well being and life as any other book/meditation or seminar.
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Default 22-05-2012, 06:28 AM

Saturday 19th May 2012

This night I went out thinking of Manchester but missed one of the last trains and felt that getting there at the very last train/later trains would have made me miss out on too much of the night to get my money's worth.

So I went into Bolton with a few friends and didn't approach. This is a recurring problem/issue to deal with. Approaching with friends.

I feel too on show. By myself or with a wing i feel like "Oh this is okay as right now Im alone and if i speak to this girl I would be doing what my purpose is" knowing my wing is fully non-judgemental.

NOW Im not saying my friends would judge but I feel that with non-pua people its more pressure. Like they wouldn't say "Oh cool dude you had a go" they'd think "Why did it go bad? How did you not get with her?" If you get me.

Although I know my friends are cool and wouldn't actually think that. My issues I guess!

Also I went out last night again with friends into Manchester for a Bday. So I set myself a small goal. 5 opens and nothing had to come of them. Just literally open, not even go any further.

I did 4 and 1 girl opened me too on my kerrraazzzyyyy shirt (although it wasn't peacocking!!), this doesn't count the one or two girls I spoke to but didnt actually turn to look at me and I just turned away. Why am I so anxious about casual socialising? My opener is simply "hey hows it going/how's your night going/what are you celebrating?".

Anyway, next night out is wednesday

Wednesday - turn up
Thursday - solo and approach
Friday - wings, hopefully they will help push me to open girls in groups around the club properly and do ONE GENUINE APPROACH "hey i wanted to meet you "


Also, to help with my opening asap, I might do a week where I go out with the sole goal of to open as soon as I enter the club alone.


Good night!
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