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Default 07-05-2012, 12:18 AM

Saturday 07th May 2012

Okay went in town with some friends - they were already in so I went to meet them.

I completed my success criteria which was to just turn up!!

"80% of success is showing up" - Woody Allen.

I didnt do any approaches, I actually didnt even plan to as I dunno it feels like too much of an event to be doing it whilst with friends.
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Default 07-05-2012, 12:33 AM

Sunday 07th May 2012

Went to Manchester alone! Got into the club around 10:30 and it was heaaaaaaving. I went to 5th Avenue at a foam party. I was so nervous, also the fact i'm in a neighbouring town makes it more of an event to get out to Manchester.

I could have gone to a party with friends but then I wouldn't approach at all and felt I needed to do some stuff and desensitise myself to it all a little.

It was actually surprisingly easy to get out which sounds a bit silly but I always built up going out alone and to Manchester as a reallllly big thing.

I managed 3 approaches - all attractive girls actually BUT it was just like whilst waiting to get to the bar (to order water). Bone sober. The interactions didn't get passed a few words.

Also I spoke to a guy too and he actually was pretty cool and just bought me a drink. I know to try and see it just being sociable FIRST then 'PU'.

During the whole 2hours I was there (last train is at 12am or I could do the whole night and get the 5am one just i feel nervous about spending a whole night out when I cant even have a real approach yet) I felt utterly tense, shifty and self-conscious. Like my body was imploding on itself.

Questions

1) Should I go straight for girls I find attractive OR meet less attractive girls, get comfortable getting them to the lay, then work my way up to hotter girls.

2)I cant approach girls who aren't waiting in line to get to the bar, I think its because I just can't go up to a group or even a 2set. Is this something that develops with time or am I just being a pussy and need to man up?

3) After the initial thread of conversation, the opener, I always just leave the interaction. Maybe its because I just haven't warmed up enough (as It takes me a while for each approach) or should I go straight to introducing myself.

My aim is to be able to be direct or at least open h/e but in a direct way if that makes sense as I liked the Random Word Game Joe Fresh taught me

Overall I turned up and actually spoke to 3 girls. Awesome.

NEXT TIME: Speak to whoever, guy or girl as soon as I get in and learn to relax whilst in there. Loosen up and don't lose your EC. Spend the whole night in Manchester too.

So relax and speak to the first person I see when in there: "Where's the toilets".
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Default 07-05-2012, 12:35 AM

Sunday 07th May 2012

Went to Manchester alone! Got into the club around 10:30 and it was heaaaaaaving. I went to 5th Avenue at a foam party. I was so nervous, also the fact i'm in a neighbouring town makes it more of an event to get out to Manchester.

I could have gone to a party with friends but then I wouldn't approach at all and felt I needed to do some stuff and desensitise myself to it all a little.

It was actually surprisingly easy to get out which sounds a bit silly but I always built up going out alone and to Manchester as a reallllly big thing.

I managed 3 approaches - all attractive girls actually BUT it was just like whilst waiting to get to the bar (to order water). Bone sober. The interactions didn't get passed a few words.

Also I spoke to a guy too and he actually was pretty cool and just bought me a drink. I know to try and see it just being sociable FIRST then 'PU'.

During the whole 2hours I was there (last train is at 12am or I could do the whole night and get the 5am one just i feel nervous about spending a whole night out when I cant even have a real approach yet) I felt utterly tense, shifty and self-conscious. Like my body was imploding on itself.

Questions

1) Should I go straight for girls I find attractive OR meet less attractive girls, get comfortable getting them to the lay, then work my way up to hotter girls.

2)I cant approach girls who aren't waiting in line to get to the bar, I think its because I just can't go up to a group or even a 2set. Is this something that develops with time or am I just being a pussy and need to man up?

3) After the initial thread of conversation, the opener, I always just leave the interaction. Maybe its because I just haven't warmed up enough (as It takes me a while for each approach) or should I go straight to introducing myself.

My aim is to be able to be direct or at least open h/e but in a direct way if that makes sense as I liked the Random Word Game Joe Fresh taught me

Overall I turned up and actually spoke to 3 girls. Awesome.

NEXT TIME: Speak to whoever, guy or girl as soon as I get in and learn to relax whilst in there. Loosen up and don't lose your EC. Spend the whole night in Manchester too.

So relax and speak to the first person I see when in there: "Where's the toilets".
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Default 07-05-2012, 09:04 PM

Was going to go out today. Dressed up, did hair, gathering my money, keys, ID etc when I looked outside RAINING!! Pouring it down.

For a day Im not scheduled to go out. . . maybe not.

I'll do it tomorrow instead. 42nd street I hear is good tomorrow.

My rules of success which I think are important and to remember (should probably get them tattooed on my forearm):

1) Turn up
2)Approach/do what's needed to be done
3)Have people/wings/mastermind group.
4)Education/applied knowledge
5)Positive attitude

Yes, I have read Napoleon Hill and these seem to be the main habits/mindsets that stand out to me at this point in my life.
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Default 09-05-2012, 12:55 AM

Today I went out at night, got lost in Manchester looking for 42nd Street.

Was quite nervous about going to a club I had never been to before by myself. Had to ask for directions. I get in and its empty! I mean a few people were there but nothing were you could chat up girls.

Anyone know good places to go to on Tuesday or does 42nd street pick up after midnight?

I left straight away because it was so empty, I thought hanging around a dingy club alone whilst its quite was a bit too weird for my liking.

I turned up yayyyyy.

Then I spoke to a hot girl in the street as I'm planning on getting back into my day/street game (I stopped after I got my first 2 dates from them and worked on night clubs for a bit. Also my sleeping pattern is almost nocturnal).

So tomorrow I'll do some day game in the city centre. Once I can do my genuine interactions comfortably in quiter places and on benches/girls standing around I'll go do it in the busy Market Street.

As I can open indirect in the market street with almost any girl BUT I could never get passed the opener on asking for directions whilst they're on their way somewhere.

Will be fun. So tomorrow Im out in the day and night

Day: Turn up and approach.
Night: Turn up.
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Default 10-05-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Shahanshah View Post
My rules of success which I think are important and to remember (should probably get them tattooed on my forearm):

1) Turn up
2)Approach/do what's needed to be done
3)Have people/wings/mastermind group.
4)Education/applied knowledge
5)Positive attitude
What would be your rough "rules of engagement " if the rules above where not present?
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Default 10-05-2012, 03:50 PM

What do you mean? If i didn't follow them I wouldn't even be here
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Default 10-05-2012, 05:42 PM

Man, it's great you're here - it's the first step. But skimming over your posts you're planning this out like you're invading France (Approach, approach some more...don't do anything and hope the enemy surrenders their undergarments).

For the best part, you need to change two aspects. They're not 'approaches', you're just talking to people. Noticed I say people, not just girls. The best nights I have are when I just go out, ideally with a few mates but one will do and just become the social centre of that bar. I talk to anyone, girls, guys, mixed groups. It sounds gay, but if you can't get started talking to some girls, talk to guys. Float around a bit, the girls will see you being 'da man.

Being just generally really sociable will work wonders. When that becomes natural and you can spark up convos with anyone, work on escalating (only with the girls tho). Think less of 'hitting on girls' and more of 'owning this bar/club'.

Stopping a girl in the street while she's on her way to somewhere with a false reason is not only weird and desperate, but hard to move on from to spark new areas of interest. This is one of the bits I hate about PUA - lying to girls to get them to talk to you.

Cut down your field reports too, then more people might read them and you'll get more helpful feedback.
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Default 10-05-2012, 10:59 PM

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Man, it's great you're here - it's the first step. But skimming over your posts you're planning this out like you're invading France (Approach, approach some more...don't do anything and hope the enemy surrenders their undergarments).

For the best part, you need to change two aspects. They're not 'approaches', you're just talking to people. Noticed I say people, not just girls. The best nights I have are when I just go out, ideally with a few mates but one will do and just become the social centre of that bar. I talk to anyone, girls, guys, mixed groups. It sounds gay, but if you can't get started talking to some girls, talk to guys. Float around a bit, the girls will see you being 'da man.

Being just generally really sociable will work wonders. When that becomes natural and you can spark up convos with anyone, work on escalating (only with the girls tho). Think less of 'hitting on girls' and more of 'owning this bar/club'.

Stopping a girl in the street while she's on her way to somewhere with a false reason is not only weird and desperate, but hard to move on from to spark new areas of interest. This is one of the bits I hate about PUA - lying to girls to get them to talk to you.

Cut down your field reports too, then more people might read them and you'll get more helpful feedback.

Thanks for your advice! I like the 'owning the bar' bit.

Yeah in the street I do direct, although not on girls walking yet.

Right now I'm working on being able to have a genuine interaction with a girl without ejecting! At the opening part as you can see

I'll work on cutting down my field reports.
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Default 10-05-2012, 11:50 PM

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Right now I'm working on being able to have a genuine interaction with a girl without ejecting!
I had this problem, so I forced myself to stay in there.

Now I never eject until they either:

a) Throw their drink at me
b) Call the police
c) Scream and dive through the nearest window

If you can 'close' any of those scenarios, you're well on your way to being a total sex pest... sorry, I mean PUA.
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