Thought I'd start one after tonight.

Plan

I will go out 4 times a week at night.
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday

3 nights - thursday, friday, saturday - is for proper approaching but wednesday will just be for turning up as that will be with friends and casual.

I will approach 12 girls each night making sure that 1 will be a proper one where I don't eject.

And I will progress from there/

During the day I will go out Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. I already can do direct approaches, so I will do these - generally alone.

My goal each day will be to just turn up. Then make a direct approach on one girl I genuinely find attractive. This is low-key part of my game and basically a long term progression into making pick-up into something I do as I go about my day

This is my PLAN until JUNE 5TH when I will change it and the goals.
MAY 25TH I want to be able to generally approach girls in the club properly without bailing AND for them NOT to be at the bar (The only place I can really approach).

For DayGame its to be able to do a genuine approach through-out my day rather than having to go on a 'day sarge'

So recap:

Night - 4 nights - 3 night of approaching - Approach 12 girls each night.

Day - 4 Days, build up to direct open - Until I've done a genuine interaction with a girl I like.

GOALS:

Night - Be able to do a genuine approach without bailing on a girl I like around the club other than the bar.

Day - Able to do one approach through-out my day rather than on a sarge

If you're talking to 12 girls a night hoping to go somewhere with them, you're doing it wrong.

I'll repeat what's been said: This is not a standard PUA bullshit type forum. Drop the act, the 'game', the routine, the chasing... pretty much everything you said except your ambition to get better.

Knock off the shit that the other pickup guys elsewhere will tell you about going after girls. They're making attraction, seduction and sex into a job or skill set. It's not either of those. It's a natural function of your body, and by extension your mind.


I suggest you look elsewhere for your problems, rather than going straight for the kill (and essentially teaching yourself a one-trick bandaid solution that only works once in a while).

-ADHD / Anxiety / stress related to social situations?
-Excessive media /internet / porn consumption, or an inability to feel happy with other people?
-Feeling inadequate in any aspect of your life that you think relates to being attractive? (looks, fitness, money / car / nice clothes, etc.)
-History / bringing up? (Don't deserve a bird, didn't have girls growing up, feel left out of society, wierd mental problems brought on by over-protective parents, etc.)

there's other shit as well, but I suggest you begin to focus in on the underlying problem, rather than what's at the surface.



Steady your life, calm yourself down, clean your act up, be healthy, take care of yourself, all of which will build you some self respect and esteem, and girls will know. You'll be fucking golden to them from across the room.

Then talk to the first girl you want, don't act like a retard and be cool, and everything else will come naturally... and you won't have to go through this 12-girls a night bullshit.

05th May 2012

First night of real sarging. I met up with 3 people off this forum - Uber, Sapmi and Joey Fresh. Also there was Stevo but I didnt have a change to properly speak to him.

We hung out and I got to know them at paramount which was cool then when we got into the club, Joey Fresh got me to open some girls using w/e words he said. That was interesting but after the 3rd approach I felt a lot more at ease compared to when I went in but I had to leave early as I had to catch a train.

That was good as my only real goal was to turn up! I learnt that its actually not that bad once your with some similarly minded people to go out sober. Next time I will go for 12 approaches and get 1 proper interaction going where I don't bail. Hopefully the guys will help me and do some 'bootcamp'-type stuff

I was actually amazing at how the 3 of them got opening and chatting to girls so quickly and easily. Great motivation.

Ill make my reports more concise and better for next night. Hopefully should be out on Sunday with them but Ill go out tomorrow as its on my plan.

Thanks for your advice

Taking care of my other aspects such as career, education, gym and well being (meditation) are things I do already with daily habits/goals.

When I say 12 girls that's more because I don't see myself having interactions lasting that long (whereas in the day I know I can do 2 or 3 and probably get a number), obviously if at number 6 I get meet a great girl who's into me I'll stick with her

I like your advice but making sure I'm clearer in my reasons and what my idea is so far.

What type of forum is this then? Any posts or anything I can read to understand the philosophy of this site?

I generally read/watch RSD and 60years but also some daygame websites for my daytime outings.

Also how do I find out these underlying problems? :P If I knew them I'd work on them!

Well, maybe I misunderstood your original post. I'm just suggesting to not try to talk in pickup lingo, be in a pickup mindset, use pickup as a lifestyle rather than a hobby or a thing you're playing around with, etc...

DONT LET IT DEFINE YOU, LIKE SO MANY OTHER GUYS OUT THERE.

Pickup should be something you come into, play around with, get better or get out, and move on. Not something that becomes a cornerstone of your life.


As for how the main attitude of this forum is, it's less about the normal 'pickup' stuff that's taught, and more about setting yourself up right to become naturally attractive and masculine. 95% of the pickup stuff out there is going to come from the mindset of trying to fake yourself or trying to appeal to a woman. the other 5% (or less!) is going to try and reinvent you so you just are these things. Most of those will still have you doing pickup stuff, but there's something better IMO, and that's to strip down the crap that's holding you back, and to rebuild a solid foundation, and then shortcut 90% of the pickup stuff.

I'm not sure how to go about finding your own problems, it's different for everyone. If you're having issues with women, I suggest you try and figure out where those started. Go back as far as you can, pinpoint events. Look for patterns. Try and figure out what might have caused these, look for reasons in how you were brought up or how you viewed the world when you were younger. Somewhere in there are the clues for why you've never had great success with women.

I wish I could be more specific for your needs, but I'm in the same situation myself right now with trying to undo how I was raised and the years worth of emotional walls I've put up to protect myself from a world I didn't understand and wasn't instructed with how to deal with. It's been slow, but it's surely helping, and I really look forward to experiencing the positive changes that are going to continue to happen for the next few years.

All I know is that doing the normal 'pickup' stuff doesn't have a very high long term success rate as far as happiness or relationships go. Either way, you're better than 95% of pickup guys out there for simply being here, rather than elsewhere.

Mate!
I admired your enthusiasm out in the club last night! Glad to see you were approaching. I think once your comfortable with touching girls in a dominant and leading (non pervy) way, it will fall into place for you, extremely quickly, you can go for the kiss as an afterthought, and easily take her home (where I fucked up last night, she agreed to come back to mine at the end, but I lost her and didnt get her proper number!...learn from my mistakes! ring her phone after you number close, not 3 hours after!).

I love hugging in every interaction, especially in the smoking area, where it's cold. I know you dont smoke, however, the smoking area is a fantastic place to mingle!

Sure man, you still on for Sunday night? I'll find somewhere to stay and we should start a bit earlier this time

Aye you were really going for it in the club from what I saw

Yeh, really frustrating when you know you're about to pull a girl into a taxi to yours and it fucks up at the last minute

Sunday is fine.....we'll meet at the club itself at 10 on the dot...i'll put u down for the guest list

Ah cool, I'm out tonight in my home town too to be fresh for tomorrow.