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Can I kill this argument?

Lie detectors work by measuring the fluctuations in your body that occur due to the betrayal of our emotions. Things like sweat glands, electrical impulses and tiny fluctuations in pulse.

There are two ways to fool lie detectors, one is to not allow those triggers to occur and the other is to falsify the benchmark done at the beginning of the test (to find your averages) by forcing those things to happen when they shouldn't.

In both cases you're controlling your emotions either by increasing them or decreasing them to zero.

For me personally with very little conditioning i can choose to switch this off.
If it is somthing you WANT to do then whatever it is you can eventually condition yourself to not even get that emotion


Knowone wants your approval or you to bow to them, all this thread goes to show is that YOU personally are controlled by your emotions and have no control over them.

its like arguing that all shoes are blue because the pair youve got on at the moment are blue - when in fact everyone else around you has black shoes on

other than these words you are not worth the response and you need to grow up

again carmada, just because the feeling for ur child cant be controlled, doesnt mean that no emotion can be controlled, granted nothing could controll the emotion where somethin to happen to my little girl.

but when i to feel myself gettin emotionally attached to someone and i dont want it

switching it off is as easy as givin my head a wobble.

Carmada, you lack the understanding of how testing works. You can not test something through biased means. You are suggesting people test via a bias and uncritical method.

Here's a better method. You flash card images and test for emotional response asking the person not to control their emotions. You then flash card the same images back at them in a different order asking them to control their emotions. Obviously you do this with a control group shown entirely different cards and an opposite group asked not to control their emotions. This is a perfectly acceptable test. All of your tests are rigged for bias, bias is not scientific and is inadmissable as empirical evidence of anything anywhere.

Your emotions can be controlled, by yourself and even by someone who isn't you through brainwashing, which would indeed have to be extreme but is indeed possible as Kowalski's recent thread on the subject pointed out. Emotions can be switched off, a person can be controlled just as they can control themselves. You're faced with overwhelming disagreement.

To further argue our camp, allow me to present to you some peer reviewed evidence that proves the self control and regulation of both thoughts and emotions along with as well as proving the ability improves:

Older Adults Control Emotions More Easily Than Young Adults

Amusingly, this study does almost exactly what I pointed out would be an acceptable test, I probably should have searched before writing.

Emotions are a corrupting bitch but you can trigger them. They are responses to interpreted environment so if you know you;re somewhere safe you feel good. If you know you are somewhere unsafe, you feel bad. As all knowing is actually just belief, emotions are flexible and can be programmed and controlled by redefining situations.

E.g. you are told that your birthday cake is delicious and home made - you feel good.
you are then told that it is suspected to contain rat poison - you feel bad feelings about the same cake without ever tasting it. You are merely reacting to an object and situation and its relevance to you.

I agree, once emotion is in full flow it is more about going with it, allowing it. Tolle says acknowledge it and in doing so make space between yourself nd the emotion. THe best way to deal is to experience the emotion and then you can control urself better the next time you exprience it. Like drug intake. Its important to know that you and the emotion are two things. You are not 'Anger' you are a conciousness expriencing anger. You can repress feelings but they will twist you up inside if you dont deal with them. Much like memories of bad experiences, its by facing them that you condition a reduced response to them. However, it is possible to cheer up when in a bad mood by thinking positive thoughts etc.

By deciding to self hynopnotise you are being controlled by your emotion, all be it in a good way, it's emotion that's directing action not action directing your emotion, if there was no underlying emotion controlling it you would have no reason to listen to Paul McKenna in the first place. Listening to the C.D might change your emotions, but again you have little "control" over this yourself, it's just a subconscious reaction to it. You can say as much as you want that you are not controlled by your emotions and you control them, but it's emotion thats telling you that. Emotion is as constant and ongoing as your consciousness and any changes or actions that instigate changes are a result of your previous emotions anyway, hence no control.

The emotion is automatic and directs action or inhibhits it, just because you find yourself getting better results with emotional outcomes does not mean you are in conscious control of it, it's just something that happens with experience as you have different reations to situations and your subconscious can handle it better.

Likewise with the experiment mentioned by RLJay, emotion tells the participants they must conform, therefore they are not in control, but are just influenced differently in the form of being asked/presured to feel different emotions by the experiment which is stronger than the flashcards.