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Phil · 10-05-2011, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Breaker

Referring to the track records of hypnotists and nlp practitioners for emotional control is like referring to Mystery Method for proof of structured attraction.

not really considering NLP is recognised by the british medical council.

10-05-2011, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil

not really considering NLP is recognised by the british medical council.

Also the NHS will sometimes refer you to a hypnotist to ease back pain and stuff... Someone on the project management course I did recently told me she did it through the NHS..

Phil · 10-05-2011, 07:38 AM

so there u go guys, make ur own conclusion, but i beleive its pretty much decided by the powers that be that emotion

CAN BE CONTROLLED

altho there is this one book which may infact, regardless off all the evidence against it, is probly still right, as it backs carmadas argument.....

there is another book like that, i think its called the bible

Phil · 10-05-2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by camarda

you can't control emotions, or thoughts.

you are wrong.

i never said u can control thoughts, u can change them

u can control emotions... its called hypnosis...

if u can proove hypnosis deosnt work! ur right, if u cant

stop goin on

Breaker · 11:47 AM

If you want material to prove that camarda is right try reading these books, I'm also basing my view points on long in depth discussions I've had with my father who is a child neuro psychologist,

Incognito: The Secret Lives of The Brain: Amazon.co.uk: David Eagleman: Books

Making Up the Mind: How the Brain Creates Our Mental World: Amazon.co.uk: Chris Frith: Books

Personality: What makes you the way you are: Amazon.co.uk: Daniel Nettle: Books

Also hypnosis is just relaxation to point where someone might become succeptable to being influenced, it's basically a mental placebo and has very little to do with being able self control your emotions, medical studies show thats it's only effective on around 60-70% of people. Your emotions are controlled but it's subconcious process developed from a young age which works differently with different people depending on their past experiences any belief that you are consciously making the decision to control it is just a back rationilisation.

Phil · 10-05-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Breaker

Also hypnosis is just relaxation to point where someone might become succeptable to being influenced, it's basically a mental placebo and has very little to do with being able self control your emotions

placebo or not if it works it works.

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Originally Posted by Breaker

medical studies show thats it's only effective on around 60-70% of people.

well i use self hypnosis & works on me so if it works it works.

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Originally Posted by Breaker

Your emotions are controlled but..

so u do agree they are controlled.

ur trying to knowledge waffle... ur whole speech said

u can control emotion but u cant!

some people can, not all can

therefore... they can

sendin me links to books means fuck all btw! Daily Scripture - Bridging the gap through prayer and discussion.

10-05-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tony77

I think sometimes its ok to be this direct only if you have communicated non verbally that you are safe, normal and confident. But the problem is some girls need to have a bit more comfort building before they give you their number as they don't want to appear too easy.

I have in the past got numbers off girls who only afterward told me they had boyfriends or were engaged lol! But these were mainly in the daytime. Try to plow because girls may use teh boyfriend response as an automatic response as they have been chatted up by many guys. Girls get approached by loads of guys in the evening usually by drunken chodes. If you can distinguish yourself from these guys then you are that much nearer to the poon! lol

Experiment with your tonality and non verbals when you deliver the line, it could be something in this area. How are you feeling when you deliver it? Are you happy, in state, confident? or shit scared? or this will come across. Think how cool and confident James Bond looks.

Her: "I have a boyfriend"
Me: "hey I'm not into threesomes!"

Her: "No i have a boyfriend"
Me: "can he cook?"
Her "uh yes"
Me: "good cos he can make us breakfast in bed and I like my toast buttered well"

Some girls use the boyfriend line to quickly get rid of guys they perceive as low value or just not attracted to or just another chode trying his luck. Think of it as a bucking bronco and see how long you can stay on the bull when its moving round. Keep talking to her, who knows she may confess to being single or she may be a dirty bitch who wants some fun outside the relationship but is looking for a guy man enough to handle her!

If you were the boyfriend, would you want a guy in the supermarket to keep plowing on and on to see if she is lying saying she's with you?

Or even for her to give the guy her number, even though she is engaged to you?

Phil · 10-05-2011, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by camarda

i do not know how to answer your hypnosis point phil.

my current route and experience is what prompts me to state 'you cannot control emotion'.

i started having a look at hypnosis, but i could go on all day.

i will carry on voicing my own point, and experience, when addressing people who say that you can control emotion, but obviously, we will come back to this thread where the discussion has ended for me (being i am not able to currently prove/disprove hypnosis).

it has been an enjoyable thread, and i think this debate hasn't impacted either of our beliefs on whether you can control emotion or not

ye so your saying the point ur making is based on ur experience,

then when others on here are telling you they are capable of doing what u cannot, it must be wrong

why is that?? coz your so worldly wise that u know every variable possibility of human behavior.

experience tells me that the umpteen times ive been proven wrong or changed my views.... that anything is possible, and to say something isnt possible is ridiculous.

im telling u now, i have learned to control emotion, sometimes it controls me....

but in 90% of situations i can control it.

Refl3x · 12:42 PM

Phil i think youve said it all, only thing left for me to do is spunk on your face now

how many people on here have found Paul Mckennas instant confidence tracks useful...
there we go again controlling an emotion using hypnosis

Darood · 10-05-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Refl3x

how many people on here have found Paul Mckennas instant confidence tracks useful...

Me for one.

Speaking of which, is there anyone better?