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Phil · 08-05-2011, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxemillion

I dont think they leave their bf's immediately, I think there is a transition period where they get to know if you are an upgrade or not. This phase probably involves som cheating on their part. better to find singles, especially if not looking for a relationship. I'd feel bad for making a girl leave her bf and then sacking them off after a week or so.

if ur happy with girls cheatin on their fella to become ur BF, ur either desperate or stupid

Phil · 08-05-2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by camarda

have you been cheated on phil?

Ye, but i deserved it, i was 17 and shagged everythin behined her back & was horrible to her

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Originally Posted by camarda

a woman moving from one man to another in an 'unethical' way is a fact of life and isn't going to go anywhere. (and to be fair, the whole view of ethics is another subject entirely.)

no its a recent social disfunction.

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Originally Posted by camarda

if you fell for a girl who had the boyfriend, ethics wouldn't even come into it. you follow what is true for your heart.

This wouldnt happen, im in control of my emotion enuf that i wouldnt fall for a girl with a fella.

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Originally Posted by camarda

we cannot pin down human interaction and relationships into a 'everyone should do this, everyone should do that'. it is impossible. all your efforts, the text you wrote, futile.

no but at the start of a relationship its a mutual knowledge of whats expected and should be upheld by the both of you, everyones may be different but should stll hold the values...

otherwise, be single. if u keep stealing girls, they are obv the type of girls who can be stole

Phil · 08-05-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by camarda

no its a recent social disfunction.

recent? and how long have women been traded like cattle?

This wouldnt happen, im in control of my emotion enuf that i wouldnt fall for a girl with a fella.

emotions cannot be controlled. i guess you could avoid a situation that may end up with you developing love. and when i say love i mean the conventional idea of love, between man and woman, not the hippy spiritual love that is prevelant in todays spiritual community.

there is no mutual knowledge. it is not like people enter into a signed agreement stating 'thou shall not cheat on me!'.

i think you are very wrong phil. if you want to agree to disagree i do not mind.

just coz "You" cant control ur emotion, u keep sayin u cant... well i can.

if i can feel myself getting close where it un-warrented, i control suppress & move on.

and if i get in a relationship, i expect the person to not cheat on me, as everyone in the world bar u does, otherwise i wouldnt get into it.

and agreeing to disagree is sound, its clear we do, but what your claiming is in in ur head. im just as relationship pesimistic as u, i just dont think people shud expect to be cheated on

chops147 · 08-05-2011, 07:50 PM

the problem is women are scared to leave relationships cos in the old days this would mean no food e.t.c. similar to blokes being worried about leaving their job.

Phil · 08-05-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by camarda

if i can feel myself getting close where it un-warrented, i control suppress & move on.

ahh ok, i see. kind of like, if you are on a rollercoster, and you feel the fear inside, you stop the rollercoaster and jump off and run away. effectively, not controlling the fear at all.

and if i get in a relationship, i expect the person to not cheat on me, as everyone in the world bar u does, otherwise i wouldnt get into it.

i don't think i have ever said to what you are replying to. my point was, and still is, if you expect the human population to end a relationship in what you deem 'the correct relationship ending process', you are deluded, and ultimately all efforts in trying to achieve this universal procedure, are futile.

the label you have given me of being 'relationship pesimistic' isn't required. also your final point is not applicable (read statement above as to why).

no, your first point about fear, its not fear it so i dont get involved where its guaranteed to turn out bad i.e Strippers, Probem women, girls from gangster families, escorts... or anyone who i deem uncharacteristic of the girl i want.

and as regard to relationships, u cant pigeon hole them, but im talking individually, u can expect people to adhere to the rules of THEIR relationship

chops147 · 08-05-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by camarda

and what made you come to this conclusion chops?

you're comment seems so drastic, and penetrating, that you must have experience of studing human evolution/mating stratergies.

I read it in a book I read before getting into pickup called "what women want men to know" it's n interesting reed and will definitely help you find a woman who's relationship worthy.

I was gonna say it has some feminazi crap in there but come to think of it I don't think it mentions buying her loads of crap at all. I read that about 4 years ago though.

Phil · 09-05-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by camarda

your point isn't about controlling emotion. your point is avoiding situations that may trigger emotions.

ok ur boring me,

so if i start to feel emotion

then say to myself, pack it in u divy.... and it goes away...

thats not controlling my emotion...

i think u will find it is....

May be u cant do that, i can. the words Ah Fuck it, for me, remove any negative feelings..

ur such an argumentative cunt sumtimes adam. i understand what ur sayin.

u cant stop emotion rearing its head... no of course not, but when u notice it you should be able to take control & deal with it in ur own mind.

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Refl3x · 09-05-2011, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by camarda

i am only arguementative as i know how wrong you are

I think really you want to touch him in that special place.

By avoiding an emotional situation you are still controlling the emotion because you are choosing to not let the emotion control you.

another example-- my depression -- there are certain situations that create a massive wobble in me, i have learned most of these triggers and even new ones that appear i have ways of controlling them now which makes them go away within 5 minutes.
in effect i am controlling the emotion and not letting it dictate my thinking or actions

Refl3x · 03:12 PM

Emotions are triggerd by thoughts-- control your thoughts and you ahve controlled your emotions
FACT

your own example
rough lane brings you fear-- because your thoughts either on a conscious level or a subconscious level say you will get mugged--therfore producing a fear response-- control the thought and control the fear.
its that simple

Phil · 09-05-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by camarda

emotions are triggered by thoughts. i do not know to be honest.

you can't control your thoughts.

try it now, stop thinking for 30 minutes. not a single thought. go on, knock yourself out.

infact try this, for a week, stop feeling any emotion. tell us how you get on

what is your biggest insecurity? we can do another test to show you how wrong you are

just tell me your insecurity, maybe you secretly want to mate with animals? i don't know. just tell me what it is and i'll explain another test to prove how wrong you are

ok so tell me im wrong about this and explain it

you are right, you cant stop the initial introduciton of an emotion, but you can control it after you realise its there

and dont say u cant, coz u can, coz i do it.