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Default 09-05-2011, 03:29 PM

just an example of controlling an animal by putting a lead on it. It still wants to hump/bite things however it can't because it's on a lead.

Essentially you're putting a lead on your emotion and not letting it get into the bite/hump situation...

I think you also have a choice of emotions, recenlty I've chosen to feel disappointed with a people who mess me around, rather than being jealous or upset over somebody with free will who I can't control. Just flat out "I thought you were better than that"


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Default 09-05-2011, 03:36 PM

Interesting topic and generally speaking I'm on Camarada's side but I think it's a bit more complicated. Humans make self protective decisions based on emotions and experience of emotions automatically and generally not through choice. I would argue that even these decisions are not consciously controlled by yourself but just formulated as a result of previous experiences, not just the original experience but a combination of many others possibly even ones such as reading this forum. The illusion of control over everything you do is one that neuroscientists are currently proving to be a fallacy as the desicions are made and your conscoius will justify it afterwards making you beleive it was your choice.

Therefore the only way to control emotions is to have been in the situation previously and have a reference point or exposure to a defense mechanism which gives the illusion of control, when in fact it's decision made before you consciously try and control it.

Basically everything you think or do is just an automatic reaction based on experiences and environment and not controlled, the belief you have control over it is just a backwards rationilisation.

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Default 09-05-2011, 05:25 PM

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ok ur boring me,

so if i start to feel emotion

then say to myself, pack it in u divy.... and it goes away...

thats not controlling my emotion...

i think u will find it is....

May be u cant do that, i can. the words Ah Fuck it, for me, remove any negative feelings..

ur such an argumentative cunt sumtimes adam. i understand what ur sayin.

u cant stop emotion rearing its head... no of course not, but when u notice it you should be able to take control & deal with it in ur own mind.

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I generally find the words "FUCK IT" really help in getting rid of a bad emotion. If I'm feeling angry, upset, or bothered about something, I say FUCK IT out loud, and get on with it... I generally find the feeling may come back at some point, but for the long term it helps to just forget about it.

Something very valuable I have learned from this forum is:

DONT WORRY ABOUT THINGS YOU CAN'T CHANGE.
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Default 09-05-2011, 06:20 PM

Can we all agree Adam's wrong and move on?


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Default 09-05-2011, 06:45 PM

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phil, you can stop energising it, energising by getting caught up, and allow it to go its natural path. but you can;t ultimately make it go away on a whim. it goes away on it's own accord
once you forget about the root, the end product/emotion goes with it.

if you pre occupy ur mind with somethin else. or as i do, use imagery & nlp to dissasociate the issue,

i have had emotional response where its beyond my control before, but thats through me allowing it to take over & consume my thoughts.

after that point... i decided to keep them under control.

u may have books to show THEORIES to back ur claims...

i dunno if u have ever heard of small group of people called Hypnotists... or NLP practitioners...

but these people (if you ever heard of them its really small a group) are there to douse ur claims. and have proven track records in

habitual need
fear
happiness & depression
and many more...

whether is controling it by negating or instigating

its all about controlling emotion... infact u know what adam.... ur right,

an industry invested in by all the major banks & advertising companies, coca cola,pepsi the lot... they are wrong

ur defo right


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Default 09-05-2011, 06:50 PM

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Hypnotists
Randomly enough next month i officially qualify as a Hypnotist


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Default 09-05-2011, 07:04 PM

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Randomly enough next month i officially qualify as a Hypnotist
ye but u dont count ur a bellend


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Default 09-05-2011, 08:18 PM

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ye but u dont count ur a bellend
Just because i dont use Ross Jefferies stuff on people and call myself a natural....... shush


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Default 09-05-2011, 08:40 PM

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Just because i dont use Ross Jefferies stuff on people and call myself a natural....... shush
erm.... lets not start to bad mouth the guru


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Default 09-05-2011, 11:04 PM

Referring to the track records of hypnotists and nlp practitioners for emotional control is like referring to Mystery Method for proof of structured attraction.
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