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Default 30-09-2021, 04:01 AM

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No probs,

Ultimately it's up to you what you read, though it's interesting to note that a number of "dating coaches" have reviewed the rational male and weigh up its pros and cons. Stein here mentioned Mark Manson's "models" as a more useful resource (I'm yet to read this).

Ideally the sooner you work on dating/game of some form, the better, even if it's just online dating. Still experience.

Are you meditating for 6 hours a day? I've heard of some folks meditating for 2 hours a day and that struck me as excessive, almost like they're trying to escape reality. There's no experience like the truth.

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Ah no I'm not meditating 6 hours a day right now haha, now I'm mainly spending most of my time at work


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Default 06-10-2021, 08:39 AM

Lmao, check this out.
There's 2 girls that I used to hangout with in my old house. Never hooked up.
We see each other after like 4 months and we hangout with their friends.
I go shopping with them, me and 4 girls.
Then we go clubbing, me, 2 of my guy friends and 2 girls.
Then on the day after we hang out in my crib, me and 3 girls.

There's one girl that I really like, I ask her to hang out but she invites her girl friend.
I imply that we should just hang out by ourselves. She basically says no and then I ask her:
Me: Does your friend come to your dates too?
Her: I rarely if ever go on dates and she doesn't too hahahahaha
Me: Well let's go on your first date on Friday
Her: I don't want go on dates right now hahahaah
Me: Cool cool
Her: Hehe
Her: Btw
Her: We'll be free at 5pm at blah blah
Me: Cool cool
Me: Sooooo
Me: You're not interested in hanging out one on one?
Her: Well, I don't really hang out one on one but if we become friends there will be no problem
Me: Cool cool

Lmao, I got played. Wow, I suck with girls.

I've hung out with this girl about 3 times. She is just not interested.

Anyways, I am doing daygame again. Man, I am a complete beginner. I'm basically 29 and still suck with women, wtf man hahahahaa

Anyways, nowhere but up from here I guess


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Default 06-10-2021, 12:30 PM

That sucks. With experience you’ll learn to read situations earlier as they have the same patterns. You’ll be able to tell with pretty good accuracy who is attracted, who isn’t and who is just trying to get free shit.

My advice is, if you aren’t certain make a move.

Actually make a move though. Hanging out then later texting “let’s hang out” is not a move. In this specific situation it is unlikely but I have been in situations where my not making a move has killed her attraction. You can’t do that. You gotta stop doing that, man.

Always make a move if you aren’t sure. Then you’ll have that as a reference experience that will help you to tell the difference in the future. If you feel odd when someone is talking to you, maybe they are lying. If you don’t find out whether they were or not you don’t know if that feeling means you are being lied to or not. Same with attraction.


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Default 06-10-2021, 09:13 PM

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That sucks. With experience you’ll learn to read situations earlier as they have the same patterns. You’ll be able to tell with pretty good accuracy who is attracted, who isn’t and who is just trying to get free shit.

My advice is, if you aren’t certain make a move.

Actually make a move though. Hanging out then later texting “let’s hang out” is not a move. In this specific situation it is unlikely but I have been in situations where my not making a move has killed her attraction. You can’t do that. You gotta stop doing that, man.

Always make a move if you aren’t sure. Then you’ll have that as a reference experience that will help you to tell the difference in the future. If you feel odd when someone is talking to you, maybe they are lying. If you don’t find out whether they were or not you don’t know if that feeling means you are being lied to or not. Same with attraction.


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Thanks Kowalski for this! Those words really helped me man. I was a bit sad earlier but you know what, I've determined that I'm gonna go out everyday and just put the work in to getting good with women. My mindset now is 'I would much rather get rejected than not get the reference experience'.

I have set some goals:
At least 5 approaches a day.
From these 5 approaches, aim to have 3 conversations that last over 2 mins.
These long sets are where I grow the most.
Try to do at least one very scary approach.

Hopefully be December, I would have gone on some dates hopefully man

I went out today, did 7 approaches.

First one: Girl walking out of Tesco, as she walked out with her friend the alarm started ringing. I opened her with "Did you take something valuable" and went into a story about how something similar happened to me. It was ok, she was kinda shy and I ejected early.

Second one: Chinese girl, this was a pretty long conversation, I got her number but man I didn't eject from the set properly. Like we were in the grocery aisle shopping and talking. Then I foolishly went early to pay for my stuff and left her to go shopping. I paid for my stuff and I was in two minds:

Should I wait around cos the conversation was flowing and I got her number but didn't really say goodbye/maybe it could turn into an insta date?
Or should I just leave with a number from a conversation that was good but the number might flake.

In the end I was indecisive and I came off needy, I was at the door and she was kinda surprised and then I knew.... I had ffed up hahahahahahahaha

Asked her out over text, she didn't reply but I would be honestly surprised if she does reply.

Third one: English girl, Alison, she was pretty and was laughing at my jokes. I got nervous, talked fast and ejected early.

Fourth one: Chinese girl, no idea of name, she was alright but she told she had a boyfriend early. The conversation was actually flowing but she ended the conversation early. I moved on.

Fifth one: Black girl with a sickkkkkkkkkkkkk jacket. Honestly if I saw that jacket at a shop, I would buy it. I got talking to her but I wasn't that attracted so I ejected from the set.

Sixth and seventh ones: English girls, short sets and not much to write about them.

Yeah man, I went out and talked to some girls. Now the main thing is doing the same thing tomorrow.

Thanks guys and Kowalski for all the support, I deffo needed it. Upwards and onwards!

Tomorrow I will work on:
Talking slower and just being a bit more relaxed.
I will try do 20 mins meditation as well, did 10 mins today.


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Default 07-10-2021, 10:08 PM

Hey guys, me again!

I went out today and did 5 approaches. Did 1 mins meditation tho I will do some more before I go to sleep.

1st approach, English girl. I think, it was short.

Ones I remember:
Girl from Taiwan, I complimented her on her shoes. Then I talked about how I used to buy lots of shoes but moved onto buying lots of jumpers. Conversation flowed and we exchanged numbers. Spoke to her on whatsapp, when I got home and we've arranged a date for this Saturday.

Beautiful black girl. Man this girl was hot. Lmao I was nervous and I didn't do the approach properly but I did it. It was kinda smooth but I got nervous and was tense. It was actually ok.

Really hot indian girl. If I could construct a woman, this girl would be it. Man I walked by her, she looked at me a bit but they were other people there and it was so intimidating. This was an aisle and they were other people there. First time I walked by her, she kinda turned and I went to pick up bread. On the third time, I was just like f it. I went up to her and it was actually ok, she held eye contact and was smiling and like asking questions but man I was nervous. I was so nervous that I wasn't even horny because she was so hot. When I said goodbye, within myself I was like, man that took so much balls. It was so brave, like honestly. I was just so happy that I did it.

Did 3 more approaches but yh.

Wow, grew a lot today. One thing I am starting to see is that, my sex life is completely determined by me. If I go out, put myself in a good mood, talk to loads and loads of girls with a calm, relaxed and good vibe and leading towards sex in a non-needy way, I will get laid. I just need to be consistent and GET OUT OF MY HOUSE to meet NEW girls and not obsess over old ones.

Yeah man, thanks guys!


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Default 08-10-2021, 09:59 AM

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Hey guys, me again!

Ones I remember:
Girl from Taiwan, I complimented her on her shoes. Then I talked about how I used to buy lots of shoes but moved onto buying lots of jumpers. Conversation flowed and we exchanged numbers. Spoke to her on whatsapp, when I got home and we've arranged a date for this Saturday.
Nice stuff, a result. Keep at it, if you get some success it should snowball, assuming you don't suffer any sudden traumas.


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Default 09-10-2021, 08:23 PM

Hey guys, I got work in about 20 mins. I will write 2 posts for each day.

Hey Dr_Zed! Thanks for the comment man This journey of self improvement and dating is so much easier with other guys helping, thanks dude

Ok Day 1 - Friday 8th October.

Did 3 approaches, man I should really write the reports on the day otherwise I have to think to remember.

What I do remember is that I was doing the approaches just to do them, so I didn't really care and the girls could feel that and so they didn't really go anywhere.

Ooo yeah I remember now, the girls that friendzoned me. I went out with them to an anime store as friends. It was actually ok, I actually don't mind being friends with girls as long as I am meeting other girls who are interested in me at least sexually. It's when I don't put myself out there and meet new girls that's when it becomes bad hahahahaha

I suppose it was good practice in leading, man it was kinda cool. I would say "Ok, we are going here" and they would just follow. Pretty crazy when you think about it.
Also yeah, my manager called me in to work a shift unexpectedly so that cut into my approaching new girls time but NO EXCUSES. I could have done more, only did 3 but at least I kept the momentum up.


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Default 09-10-2021, 08:32 PM

Ok, onto today! Went on the date, with the cute taiwanese girl.

Man, she wore a mask all throughout the date. Maybe I should have asked her to take it off, I should have to be honest at least I should have phrased it as a game. Oh my days, I couldn't kiss her. It was pretty fun but I kinda cheated, I took like 3 shots before the date. I was in a pretty talkative and just free flowing mood. The date went ok, we walked around and then went to a museum. She was receptive to my physical touch, sat down and we played with each other's hands, hugged but I couldn't kiss her. Ah man, anyways.

Check this out:
We had been on the date for approximately 2-3 hours, the museum was closing. I live in the centre so no matter where we go in the centre, I live about 5 mins away. I say I need to go pee, she follows, I just keep talking and we end up in my flat. I take her in, tell her to sit down and I go to the bathroom and pee. I put some music on while im in the bathroom, I come out and tell her she can change the song and she tells me nah she has to go.
I'm like cool, we walk out and we go grocery shopping, we hug, part ways. She says 'until next time' and I'm like sure whenever just let me know.
Basically while we were sitting in the museum talking, I tried to suggest another date next week she said she couldn't do it. I didn't care, I just said whatever. So yeah, hopefully we meet up again.

Things I could improve:
I should have playfully made her take off her mask. Honestly, I should have then I could have kissed her. I think I had a lot of investment, she was ok with my physical touch and she was following me pretty compliantly.
NO ALCOHOL - Come on dude, let's try and at least go on dates completely sober.

So yeah, I met another Chinese girl in the supermarket got her phone number and it seems solid. Hopefully we can arrange a date.

Also lmao, I forgot to write about this:
There's a bunch of girls and 2 gay guys at work. One of the gay guys comes to me and says his friend likes me (one of the girls, not the guy hahahahahahhahaha).
I could kind of tell this girl likes me because man it was just like she was a bit too eager to talk to me. It was actually kind of creepy/weird to be that into me without really knowing me, I kind of see how a girl would run away from that type of guy.
Guys, I've got to go work. I'll finish this up a bit later

EDIT:
So basically there was a big group of the gay guys and the girls. One of the guys said "You know P likes you", P starts giggling, it's like something out of a playground. Anyways later on in the day, I get P's number, we chat and I've asked out to grab a quick coffee. We will see what her response is, thanks guys! That's me out for tonight


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Default 11-10-2021, 10:50 AM

Only did 2 approaches yday nonsense, did do 20 mins meditation so that's a win at least


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Default 11-10-2021, 08:40 PM

Today did 3, at least I did them. Did 40 mins mediation though!


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