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Default 06-11-2013, 02:10 PM

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"Hey! Your hot. If I wasn't busy as hell I'd whisk you away for a coffee now"
Love that , its going in the back pocket!

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Default 06-11-2013, 11:40 PM

Todays interviews were great, managers lappin' up my work in the community. In the first interview today we somehow got onto talking about my puppy and then I spent a good 5 minutes talking to other staff members. That was Sainsburys, pritty cool; I was offered the job.

Next was Clinton Cards. I didn't apply for this specifically, I sent my CV into the store about 5 weeks ago and on Monday they asked me to attend an interview for today. The manager was cool, asked some generic questions then we just kinda chilled with banterous conversation. I completely fucked up by confusing my local Card Factory store with a Clintons store so that was a laugh. I came out of the interview laughing at my error. 3 hours later I got the phone call; I was offered the job and has given me until Monday to decide as he knows I've got a few offers.

Last 1 was for a Bar Staff Apprentice. Not really what I want and the interviewer possible sensed that but again, I made a good account of myself in what was a strange interview; Outcome unknown though I don't give a shit.


So out of 4 interviews, I was offered 3 jobs, all accommodating me in my community work, giving me days I need free and some weekends free. M&S were the most accommodating and just because it's high end retail and I can get a transfer to a Dutch store when I hopefully move to Holland for uni, which is awesome. So, M&S it is!


Thursday - RELAX and reply to my messages.


** 1 big thing I've found from all of this is the PU skills I'm learning are totally having an impact on my daily life. My interviews are much better, I find myself following the same pattern of chat-up I do during day game, it seems like the skills relate and overlap each other. In interviews I've made notes but then not referred to them, I have a very free flowing off the cuff style and the great thing, like in the interview at Clintons, when I make a mistake I just laughed it off like it was nothing and continued on. Same as I do in all aspects of my life. I feel a Customer Service role will certainly help me become even more confident and I truly believe I have the potential to become great at PU, now that I've given myself this job push.
My main problem in PU is in closing for more than just a number and night game, simply because I haven't tried it much what being cash strapped n'all.


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Default 07-11-2013, 12:03 AM

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At least you'll be getting some cash soon dude and who knows what else.
Lot's of totty around my age working in the M&S store I'll be in. Cash is my main incentive and I have the chance to whack my hours straight up near 40hr/week, which is fantastic for me.

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Sick man, I've never done a job interview, CV or even searched for a job properly before. You're hard work paid off!
Cheers dude. My CV was an experiment in all honesty, the CV of the future; pop-up booklet CV. I had info literally springing out at the reader. It's fun, engaging and every page has a new surprise. I thought it was a great idea to try.
Searching for jobs is pritty easy, however whether you find any jobs that are suitable for you is another matter all together. If there wasn't many jobs I used to apply for jobs I was under-qualified for, just so the JobCentre couldn't say I wasn't doing anything. Got to play the system.
Interview, I don't know. I think it's just a case of finding your feet with them but I think it's important to have a laugh and be banterous, shows confidence and I was 20 mins early for every interview and managed to get 3 job offers out of 4, so punctuality is a key aspect of an interview. I think you'll be good at interviews dude, you'll realize the PU skills you've picked up will help you tremendously.


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Default 14-11-2013, 09:54 PM

I am happy with the progress I've made over the initial 6 months or so that I've been on this site and actively participating in self improvement. Some things I've worked better on than other things but I have always seen and continue to see improvement.

I think the events of yesterday summed up my strengths and weaknesses really well.


I went into the JobCentre yesterday per usual to collect my bus ticket money, just to help me get to and from work before my first pay packet. There is always a young girl whose employed to basically sit there searching for jobs and ring people about them. She talks to me every time I go in the building, without fail, we've even exchanged cheeky emails. I knew she liked me from the start, the receptionist basically gave that away. Anyway, I told her that I'm working at M&S and she seemed really excited that she'd see me out of work as she shops at that M&S, apparently. Same with the receptionist. Seems a bit strange to me as it's a retail park in the middle of nowhere but we'll see. Wished me good look, gave me a hug and said "I'll see you soon all suited up". Aww.


At the bus depot there were two girls, about 17 or 18 haha idk. They definitely liked me, the brunette more than the blonde and I the same. I went to get in line for the bus, as did they, I realized that it was the wrong bus so I pulled out of the queue, soon as I pulled out they backed out of the queue too and decided to walk past me with the brunette making eye contact and blushing. They stood close to me and I just started laughing at the whole situation, I turned to them and said "So that wasn't your bus either, which one are you waiting for?". There was a good 5 minute conversation before they got their bus and the brunette waved to me as the bus pulled off. Cute.


During talking to the girls, there was a guy in the happiest fucking mood ever imaginable, he was hilarious. He was paranoid that the bus he wanted went past the bus at the stands and he was traipsing up and down in the funniest amateur dramatics ever. Kinda made me wonder how funny it was for everyone watching when I burst out in funny outlandish dramatics when a 24 year old girl called me "cute" a few days ago.


On the bus I had spurts of talking to an elderly guy doing a crossword puzzle. How the hell people can read in a moving vehicle is beyond me, for some reason it makes me physically sick. Anyway, he was basically laughing his tits off at the guy doing all the amateur dramatics.


The next person I got talking to was purely by accident. I was sat in my seat on the bus and swiveled round to look out the back window, when I looked up I saw 12 eyes from within the double decker bus staring back at me, it kinda weird-ed me out, as my bus turned left and their bus went straight on, their eyes we still fixated on me, fucking creepy. As I turned back I caught the glimpse of a guy with his headphones in, I don't know what I did nor the expression on my face but for whatever reason he suddenly took out his headphones and made a "what did you say" gesture. So I improvised and ended up talking to him for about 10 minutes. found out quite a lot about him, he works with disabled/handicapped children offering a kind of social activity sessions to help better the quality of life and aid the families. That is all brilliant stuff in my book and I detected a slight disability that he has, so for him to overcome that and provide support and help out disabled children who are going through similar things to what he went through is fantastic. Kudos to him.



So I can see I definitely don't have a problem talking to people and my off the cuff style makes it pritty easy for my to improvise, though as a guess I'd probably say if I had time to think about the situation I maybe wouldn't do as good.
My major setbacks can be seen with how I ended the conversation with the 2 girls at the bus depot. I didn't escalate in any way, shape or form and I didn't close at all. I need to work on these 2 areas as I've seen through recent weeks my quite obvious lack of escalation and closing is effecting my progression. Yes I have closed girls before so I know I can do it so the reason to why I'm not doing it maybe because I'm not thinking about it. Escalation seems non-existent to me, I hardly ever touch the girl(s) and thinking about it, on the run up to having sex with different girls, I've never done physical escalation outside the bedroom other than a hug and shit like that.

I end up kicking myself after most approaches as I can see so many ways that I can escalate, I've let so many opportunities of escalation or closing slip past. Last night I was pritty pissed with myself for not closing at least the brunette girl. So I decided to quickly go online and reply to a few messages I've got with the intention of sending 1 message, getting a reply and then just going for the phone number. I got 2 phone numbers and they're legitimate as well so that shows it's easy to do, I've just got to push myself into it.

So, definitely things to work on.


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Default 14-11-2013, 10:42 PM

It's difficult to escalate in the day situations. Closing with a solid number (because you made a strong connection) is probably the best you can expect.


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Default 15-11-2013, 12:15 PM

I too used to feel it wasn’t normal to touch or physically escalate with girls, especially ones I had just met. For me, I felt I didn’t have the right to, or deserve it. As a man, I now realise it’s my responsibility to do so in pretty much any environment, day or night, the street or club. If you feel you're only allowed to get phone numbers, it’s a limitation you put on yourself.

Start off with the basics, take her hand upon meeting her for the first time, and introduce yourself. At least then, you have initiated contact.


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Default 15-11-2013, 02:25 PM

This is pretty much where I'm at. My conversation is fine albeit some mistakes from time to time or mini blow ups but I don't escalate or take it beyond this. Also kino is difficult for me as I feel awkward &feel like I'll come across as a sleaze as a result of being awkward.

No point lying about it, its just fear I think; fear or rejection or making a mistake when its so much more comfortable to play it safe.
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Default 15-11-2013, 03:06 PM

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It's difficult to escalate in the day situations
I don't think it is.

I think that it's a case of being more appropriate for the situation.

At night making out straight away and going to have sex is more likely to happen due to the influence of alcohol and social acceptance.

However during the day physical contact such as touching and holding hands is just as powerful, you just have to have the balls to do it in the light of day where people can see...


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Default 15-11-2013, 03:13 PM

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My conversation is fine albeit some mistakes...
How do you make mistakes with conversation?
either you can converse or you can't? maybe you're thinking that you lose the attention of the girl or atraction? I wouldn't think that would be down to your conversation but more down to the self-confidence you have and the way wou present/project yourself. It is not your responsibility to keep the conversation flowing perpetually.
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Also kino is difficult for me as I feel awkward &feel like I'll come across as a sleaze as a result of being awkward
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TOUCH MORE PEOPLE
not in a sleazy way but honestly work on touching people more. Shoulders, arms, high fives. Do it when you are re-iterating points. The only way for it to feel normal is for you to make it normal - so touch more people everyday. Start small and build up - it only feels awkward to them if you feel awkward doing it


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Default 15-11-2013, 03:47 PM

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I too used to feel it wasn’t normal to touch or physically escalate with girls, especially ones I had just met. For me, I felt I didn’t have the right to, or deserve it. As a man, I now realise it’s my responsibility to do so in pretty much any environment, day or night, the street or club. If you feel you're only allowed to get phone numbers, it’s a limitation you put on yourself.

Start off with the basics, take her hand upon meeting her for the first time, and introduce yourself. At least then, you have initiated contact.
I want escalating to be like a motor response; something you just do naturally. At the minute, it's a self created limitation. I don't think it's because of fear or that I don't think I have the right to do it, I just give lots of attention to the person/people I'm talking to and honestly I don't even think about escalation. Then when when they leave I think 'yeah that was a good conversation.... oh wait, I didn't escalate or close.. damn'. I'm not noticing until the conversation has past.

There's times where I've touched, kissed, held hands and stuff like that without even thinking of escalating prior to doing it. Then, once I've do it I realize it was escalation.



Maybe it would be better to go out with the intent of escalation in order to keep it in my mind as a sort of self forcefulness to escalate. This approach would be temporary, just whilst I get into the routine of escalating.

I seem to feel fine in bypassing escalation and closing during many approaches, it's only afterwards that I wonder why I didn't escalate or close.


So, when you first approached someone during the day, you'd take their hand and introduce yourself?


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I don't think it is.
I agree. I see escalation as something I should be doing during day game. I don't want to settle for less than I am capable of.


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