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Default Anyone tried blow out game during the day? - 27-06-2011, 01:20 PM

Slightly random question I know, I've never actually tried pick up, been reading into it a lot though. (my feeling is natural game is the way, I just need to change my state. i.e become confident with girls)
My main hang up is rejection, so I guess I'm looking at an exercise to fight/destroy my ego, what does it matter if I get blown out!
So thinking taking a wonder up round Hampstead/the heath and saying stupid things to any attractive women I see.
So the real question is... does anyone think this is actually a good idea?
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Default 27-06-2011, 01:53 PM

Yeah. Go increase your confidence.

Say something fun, exciting and interesting.
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Default 27-06-2011, 02:39 PM

My feelings on this would be any bloke wandering around Hampstead Heath saying sttupid things to girls sounds like a sex offender haha.

It does however sound like a good idea, because once you realise rejection doesnt kill you, you can have so much fun!

Try it in supermarkets, shops, public street that way its not so creepy as a guy sidling up to you in the park


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Default 27-06-2011, 02:48 PM

Why say stupid things to any attractive woman you see? Don't use people as a means to boosting your confidence - that's an ego driven action. You are missing Tolle's observing presence here, you are not looking at what is driving your actions.

Going out and seeking evidence to lower the ego is an action driven by the ego in the first place. Doing this isn't an action to lower your ego, it's an action to boost your ego - you are trying to boost your confidence. You can't let go of the ego through actions and egoic demonstration, you can only let go of it within yourself.
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Default 27-06-2011, 02:50 PM

I agree with Jay but only from the point of view that ive never seen the point in things like that.
its basically destroying your own pride - i like my pride - my pride tells you to fuck off when you take the piss


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Default 27-06-2011, 03:07 PM

Pride is ego based too. If you remove the ego you don't mind if they take the piss at all. You become indifferent.

There's two sides to this though, the majority of people participate in the ego based system of value and competition with others. This means that in some cases not telling people to fuck off may make you look weak and thus participating is more valuable to you in the sense of overall return. This however has a counter effect to the personal inner strength that comes with feeling true indifference. Indifference and the transcension is healthiest because it simply can't be broken. RSD's "state" and pretty much everything in blueprint decoded has been extrapolated and adapted from Eckhart Tolle's teachings.

If you want to keep "state" then none participation in any sort of social competition and complete indifference to any attack on you is the strongest and healthiest stance. When you don't participate you can't possibly be moved from state because you simply don't care. It's a kind of inner strength that comes with personal security and knowledge of one's actions and those around you. The same thing is taught in so many aspects of religion too, Buddhism being the most obvious example - the search for complete inner peace and that "zen" sense of self and understanding. Christ also said in the bible not to judge others for their actions because they "know not what they do". In understand the motivations of ego driven actions you gain a higher understanding of the motivation between all interactions.

There is however a trap that comes with all of this, it's very easy to feel superior to those without this kind of understanding. To draw inner strength from believing yourself to be of a higher understanding of motivational actions than others. It is necessary to be careful that you do not draw strength from this mindset as it is false ego removal and thus can still be attacked - especially obvious in spiritual debate when disagreement occurs and frustrations sets in when trying to take a higher position - and ego driven action.
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Default 27-06-2011, 03:39 PM

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Why say stupid things to any attractive woman you see? Don't use people as a means to boosting your confidence - that's an ego driven action. You are missing Tolle's observing presence here, you are not looking at what is driving your actions.

Going out and seeking evidence to lower the ego is an action driven by the ego in the first place. Doing this isn't an action to lower your ego, it's an action to boost your ego - you are trying to boost your confidence. You can't let go of the ego through actions and egoic demonstration, you can only let go of it within yourself.
I think you've misinterpreted what I've said, and to be honest looking at what I actually said, it's an easy mistake.
I wish to change a deep set belief within myself about my confidence with women, but the idea of the exercise I proposed was to take the rejection, and allow myself to realize that it doesn't matter.
It's about destroying pride, I'm not talking about saying anything abusive or really even negative, just silly.
Having said all that, maybe it is an exercise in ego protection, in so far as if I'm being rejected due to the silly comment I've made, it's not really me being rejected, it's what I've said.
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Default 27-06-2011, 03:59 PM

You are justifying destroying pride(ego) as something that gives you more confidence. Feeling the need to have more confidence is still an egotistical motivation. You can not destroy the ego by doing something driven by ego. Instead what you are doing is changing what you gain egotistical satisfaction from.

So, instead of gaining egotistical satisfaction from being validated by not getting rejected what you are doing is seeking to gain egotistical satisfaction from validating yourself, feeling good about yourself because you do not seek validation from getting a positive response. This however can be knocked down in other ways, it takes a huge amount of mental energy in order to stay true to this, if it is attacked repeatedly it chips down until people snap from frustration as their mental energy and ability to keep position wains.

I'm not saying don't seek to get this, it's a step in the right direction. What you need to look at is the overall goal though as there is something beyond self validation altogether - Transcension. The none-participation and indifference to any form of validation (societal or self) altogether. You do not need to validate yourself nor receive it from anyone around you. You can just be.

On another thread, using people as a means to boosting your confidence/destroying your ego is unethical. You are using people. People should not be means, they should be ends. Instead just have sincere interactions with others. Some interactions will go places and others won't, you don't need to use people to boost or destroy anything.
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Default 27-06-2011, 05:18 PM

Jay stop talking like a twat. Tolle taught me absolutely nothing. If you want to read philosophy of the self, read Sartre.

This is a great idea. It'll be funny as fuck, boost your confidence and teach you probably the most important lesson in pick-up: Approaching is nothing to worry about.


It's just advice, fellas. Do whatever the FUCK you wanna do
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Default 27-06-2011, 05:20 PM

I can never be arsed to read Jays replies in there entirety so I may repeat what he’s said.

Just go out and talk to girls man stop fucking about!!! Trying to analyse it wiil get you nowhere believe me. If you start talking to girls with the sole purpose of fucking them you will get blown out a lot and if you keep doing it eventually it won’t bother you.

Fuck the psychology, it’s a fear and an irrational fear at that, your are only born with two fears and this is not one of the them, so get over it by doing it not talking about it.


Don’t think about rejection shouldn’t even enter your head, don’t think about it, just do it, no hesitations. Talk to her.

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