Some trouble contracting Dating Expert Kezia Noble

[Merauder]

Hi,

I'm absolutely new to the PUA community and honestly, I've always wanted to keep it that way. However, over the last past few years I have recognized that I've grown to need help when it comes to women... and probably a lot of it. I'm very happy with myself, but it's a mix of wanting to retain some dignity, Asperger syndrom, my innate politeness and just being terrible in the type of crowded loud places which 90% of the rest of the world call its mating grounds.


Not wanting to waste money on a slew of products first and having realized that I really do need in-field practical training because digging up books and videos doesn't work for me, I've resolved to hire a Dating Expert who can train me. Not only that, but to be 100% sure I wanted what I believed to be the best and went with kezia noble and her 7 day residential course. That would give me the input I would require.

I couldn't manage to get a hold of anyone else from her company, but I did manage to get her on the phone and I agreed I'd sign up after I explained that my hesitance was with the PU community and not for a lack of willpower to make it and I made a first, 1000 pound deposit onto the residential. That'd show her.

Now I'm hoping that someone here has experience with trainers like her, because everything after that is scaring the living daylights out of me and I now fear somewhat, I've been a giant idiot. When I made the deposit, it was Paypal that send me a receipt with dates and customer guarantee. All Kezia did was send me an e-mail that money had been received. After that, I waited, but nothing happened. I tried contacting any other employee again and finally let it go by leaving a phone message after 9 days and she mailed me a promise to send me an installment plan in 24-hours, with me responding that I'm really looking forward to more certainty and security: It's a lot of cash and I was hoping for a contract. It's been 48 hours now and I've heard nothing since.


Is this what normal pick-up coaches do? Is Kezia that much of a celebrity that I should just be patient? I mean, she has a slew of videos and products and her company is four years old. Reliable, right?

[amit1207]

I hope this is a troll. Because if you are genuine then you are so far the biggest idiot i have seen here(you are up there somewhere with "The Jackal" and "Alphamax").

"dating expert Kezia Noble" read this line again and reflect for a minute that how big idiot you are.

[Merauder]

Do me a favor and explain me the depth of my idiocy.

Where exactly did I go wrong? Is the PUA community known for being full of scammers?


To be certain: I've not done anything more than pay a deposit. Hell would freeze over before I do anything without more security.

[D!ce]

You paid 1000 pound deposit? Dude, you've been had, which I guess if sex is what you were looking to get out of this then I'd say you've succeeded since you've just been shafted.

There are hundreds of people claiming to be coaches who will scam gullible people who don't know better, the only way you can grow as a person (which is what I'm guessing you're really after) is to go out on your own and start talking to people.

[Merauder]

I wouldn't be chasing after such expensive services, if I hadn't already tried doing it on my own and failing at that for the past 3 decades D!ce. And it isn't just sex. Just for once I just want the world and the females in it to recognize me for the worth I truly belief I have. I need a shot in the arm, outside help, someone to show me how I should present myself then, because I'm hopelessly stuck!

But thanks, for replying and maybe shaking some sense into me then. Like I said, Kezia is eager to maintain a reputation and has many products to sell.
It's not a deposit if she has no intention to use it towards the intended service and I'm going to create a ruckus through paypal and her media channels and cause damage in excess of a 1000 pounds if this isn't resolved by the end of the month.

Patience gone, gloves off.

[D!ce]

Out of curiosity, how did you find out about the whole "PUA" thing?

I'm guessing that from your statement you must be at least 45 assuming you became interesting in girls after puberty...

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the whole "PUA" thing is bullshit, its completely fake. If you truly believe that your only choice is a "dating expert" then you are beyond help. This woman can do nothing more for you than you can do for yourself.

The only way people will see you for what you believe you are, is if you actually believe it yourself. You're choice now is to either take this advice, and act on it, or die alone.

[Merauder]

Out of curiosity, how did you find out about the whole "PUA" thing?

I've been bravely trying to do this by myself until last year, when I was rejected for the so manyeth time by women who simply "didn't feel anything for me/ didn't find me attractive".

I then started searching for help under "dating coach" and found Kezia after reviewing about a dozen other of these coaches. Kezia felt most in line with what I've been trying to accomplish and with my own identity. Only now am I finding out that this forum and someone like her might be different things.

I'm guessing that from your statement you must be at least 45 assuming you became interesting in girls after puberty...

Just to elaborate, I'm actually 29. Yes, that was a hyperbole.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the whole "PUA" thing is bullshit, its completely fake. If you truly believe that your only choice is a "dating expert" then you are beyond help. This woman can do nothing more for you than you can do for yourself.

The only way people will see you for what you believe you are, is if you actually believe it yourself. You're choice now is to either take this advice, and act on it, or die alone.

Oh I wish it were that simple.

First off, I have slight autism. If you think PUA is bullshit, than maybe you put more stock in science and modern psychology. All of my behavior is learned and I strongly belief you need to show certain behavior to get certain things done. Time and time again, I've succeeded in overcoming obstacles, simply by doing that. Not doing that, I failed. You can throw demi-god amounts of belief in yourself into a situation, but that won't get you anywhere without adaptation.

The only way people will see you for what you believe you are, is if you actually believe it yourself.

Bull...shit. That's just part of the equation. I have 3000 pounds left to spend if Kezia fucks up. Tell you what: Marsh up to buckingham palace and convince the guards you're the queen mum. Just REALLY belief you are and keep trying. If you manage to come out wearing the royal crown instead of a straighjacket, the 3000 pounds is yours.



I'll give you this much though: I have full faith that I'll eventually be able to figure out the correct behavior to make it with a girl eventually. I'm not wanting for self-confidence. However it's a proven fact that for people like me it takes WAY more effort and all I want is an equalizer. I had hoped that would be Kezia.

[Merauder]

Fair enough kowalski, thanks for mitigating.

I also know it is a necessary component, which is why I called it only part of the equation. My desire for a teacher is to overcome personal adversity, not because I'd be worthless without.

Anyway, thanks for the responses everyone.

[tat]

Hi Merauder,

I sense something, that you are ok, BUTthere is a spanner jammed in your works. I can't say what that spanner is, and what it is doesn't matter, I mean ut doesn't matter to identify it, all that matters is that you get past it,

Think of it like this: you know whae you see a wpman and she is just so fit and you have the massive hots for her and you want to just sit her there infront of you so youcan have a really good look (not a sneaky look, but a real eyeful as though time had frozen and she wasn't even aware that you were looking, and you can put her in any position you like which turns you on, and I mean with her colthes on for a start, you know, her sexy legs in those jeans, the creases, mmmm, oh and her thighs, her bare thighs, her innner thigjs, mmmm, and you touching and licking them, mmmm, and well, you get the idea, well that is what she likes, that is what she wants.....she wants that, too! She would be quite happy with oral sex, quite happy (once you have her confidence in you0 for you to use a vibrator up her). You know you want to do that, you know that you can do that (your performance is guaranteed, you don't have to have intercourse,(intercourse is more difficylt to do with the same satisfaction because, well, it is more tricky in several ways. So juat massive foreplay for a start is enough, which she will but where is that going toe just as happy with, and you know that you fingers and tongue will always work very well.

Sp knowing that, knowing that you can do that and do that to her given the chance, and that is what she wants (if she is up for it) then get on with it my friend, some will say no and some will say ok....the start of approaching will be crap and you will feel like crap, but you try and improve each time by thinking how you could have done it better, like maybe letting her see you first so that she has had chance to decide about you, and so if she wants to then she will be more warm to your advance than if taken by complete surprise and on the spot.........you just keep thinking 'how can I do it better next time'. This is why people come on this forum because they sort of see it as a gym where they can improve their game, BUT they still get out there and get on with it, and that is what you need to do, get out there and get on with it BUT always afterwards try and think how you can improve it, how it went wrong, what you could have done better, and in this you sometimes need some help from mates like us, you saying, oh I blah, blah, blah and she blew me out and was horrible the way she looked at me, and we say ' but if you wasn't rude and didn't make her deel so on the spot that she had to do that as a default position and now she feels shit because she had to handle a sexual situation so uncooly, then if you wans;t that then it is her fault not yours rgat she couldn't handle being asked and so reacted that way, and you put it to us on the forum and we all tell you what we think, and so you can then hekp work things out better how you will be better next time. BUT you have to get out there........no one can do that for you. YOU have to do this thing your self.

Here? well it is tips and advice, but nothing that can transform you, there isn't some exam you can take and then go out into the world and be able to do it.

Here's something to think about or even discuss: it is the idea that if you go for someone you don't fancy then you are going to be unbothered if you get blown out, but it you really fancy her then you are going to feel it. Well, this happen to all of us when we miss the ones we really really fancy. but if you pull someone you don't fancy then maybe you feel you have power and control because you don't care, but where is that going to get you, and her? It think it is better to go for what you really fancy and not bother with anything less. Have a think about what it is you really fancy. What is it you really like? Skinny ;egs but not muscley, just fleshy and soft? square shoulders or rounded shoulders? What I am saying is that you should carefully consider what it is that gets you going, WHAT IS YOUR TYPE? Be totally honest with yourself, make a study of it. Whenever you see a woman who you just really would like to smell and lick and touch, what is it that is doing it for you. These are the women you should try for. Don't bother with the others, it isn't fair on them, too, to be involved with someone who isn't turned on by them. This is why it doesn't matter if you are rejected because all it means is that you are not their type. Well, that is fair enough. 99% of women, maybe more, are not my type, so if a woman was to approach me that the odds are that I will say no thanks (ie you are not my type). She would be disappointed about it, but that is how it is, that's life. Even if you were her type then there are many things which could blow the deal, that's life in all its complexities. So it is a numbers game to a large extent.you ask a hundred and one will be up for getting to know you better. So what you have to do is get out there and get asking, knowing that it will likely not happen, and knowing that then you are not bothered, but you try to improve your odds like getting it down to one in ten by going over it afterwards and thinking how you could do it better and improve your chances, and tyhis is where this site comes in.....it is just mates all talking about a fantastic subject which holds much interest for them....beautiful women. Come on mate, get yourself aout there and screw up and then come back on here and say how it went wrond and we can all chat it out and then next time you will have improved your game, and then judt keep doing that. That is what we are at this site for, to improve our game. BUT this in not where you can learn your skill, this is just somewhere you can help to improve it.

I think you are ok, and I reckon you will do well, but you need to get out there and take the pain of the early stages of the learning curve. Come on, mate, get out there, see a woamn you fancy and then ask her and then come back here and say exactly what happened, THEN you can be helped.

[Phenom]

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