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23-02-2011, 10:30 AM
I think it would be great for someone who has actually studied PUA and RSD to be working in relationship/marriage counciling rather than the usual Men are from Mars Women are from Venus crap.
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23-02-2011, 10:32 AM
But I also think PUA theory needs to branch out towards making relationships work after you've got the girl, as that is what many people want. There is a huge gap in the market.
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23-02-2011, 10:58 AM
Midas I agree with that post. Most of PU material is geared towards getting the girl, not about keeping her.
There is lots of interesting psychology, male-female polarity, power centers, free expression of self, and other areas for relationships which I think are important; these topics are generally more spiritual than the PU mass-market theory. I enjoyed reading Way of the Superior Man. There are pros and cons to that book, not a review here, but its food for thought. I read out a bit of it about masculine polarity to my gf at the time!
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23-02-2011, 11:30 AM
Typical of insecure italian girls, they try to mess with your head...
In situations like this you must be a bastard and unmovable, period.
You really must be willing to don't stand her manipulating behavior and to just walk away.
Really, sometimes the best strategy is just a pure and simple ultimatum.
For example i was messaging back and forth on FB (before they deleted my profile lol) and she seemed attracted to me, i told we should see each other and she was hesitant...
my next message was something like this: "look, i find you interesting and i sense that you like me too, but i'm not willing to message back and forth for ages. so, if you want to meet that's fine, but if you just want a pen pal go find somebody else. You have time until midnight to give me an answer or you're out of my life."
does this message seem too strong for you?
guess again, because it worked... we went out and straight to bed that same night.
with this do i mean that you must give ultimatums every chance you have? heck no!
I mean that you must be willing to just let her go and don't play her game, but the best advice I can give you is to find a girl that doesn't play games like this.
I must say another thing, I can be a dick when somebody pisses me off so maybe the way i handle things won't work for somebody else, but i would have done something like this:
Girl "i'm going to a party tomorrow"
Me "I'm going out of here, right now!", start walking away
her "what? wait, what's going on?"
me "you just pissed me off with what you just did, that's what's going on"
her "how? i just told you i was going to a party"
me "that's exactly what pissed me off, you're going to a party, you tell me and you don't invite me. you're just playing games that i don't like to play"
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her "can you forgive me?"
me "sure, but you're going out with me tomorrow ...and you cook me dinner"
I'm sure some of this stuff won't work in the uk, but italy is different... it's is like entering the twilight zone
If you didn't think I'm an asshole at least once, it means I didn't make my point.
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23-02-2011, 11:34 AM
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I'm sure some of this stuff won't work in the uk
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fkin dam right
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23-02-2011, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ShivaLingam
Girl "i'm going to a party tomorrow"
Me "I'm going out of here, right now!", start walking away
her "what? wait, what's going on?"
me "you just pissed me off with what you just did, that's what's going on"
her "how? i just told you i was going to a party"
me "that's exactly what pissed me off, you're going to a party, you tell me and you don't invite me. you're just playing games that i don't like to play"
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her "can you forgive me?"
me "sure, but you're going out with me tomorrow ...and you cook me dinner"
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As with the scripted PUA conversations we tend to see, I'm sure she'd say all of those things and be really sorry. As opposed to thinking 'why is this guy making such a big deal about this?'
Stop letting these small issues affect you. It's needy and shows insecurity.
girls just wanna have fun
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23-02-2011, 12:20 PM
Actually she's Austrian and she says she can't stand Sicilian guys for this reason.
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23-02-2011, 12:24 PM
Infact now that I remember, when I was behaving in this chodish way she said to me, "Take me as I am, I am not a Sicilian girl!"
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23-02-2011, 12:38 PM
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As opposed to thinking 'why is this guy making such a big deal about this?'
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That's because they're just testing the waters to see if you really are interested in them.
In Italy women have different insecurities and there are different social interactions, so as i said before: stuff like this works in italy, in the uk it doesn't.
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23-02-2011, 12:47 PM
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That's because they're just testing the waters to see if you really are interested in them.
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Perhaps, or maybe they are seeing if you unaffected or insecure about this.
girls just wanna have fun
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