To me, it shows you are not having nearly enough conversations with different girls as you put huge emphasis on these interactions you have.

I'll check my hours tomorrow dude. I think I'm 10-4 on Saturday. No idea about Sunday yet. I'll send you a PM tomorrow.

Conversations I do have are good but frequently I approach without showing sexual intent. I can still talk to these girls, have fun, get their number but it does feel like a failure. I'm not showing the sexual intent I really should be showing. Quite a bit to do with my escalation, which I've been working on more these last 2 weeks.

I also don't go out with the intent of approaching a load of people. In doing that I do let opportunities pass so I don't talk to half the girls I should be. Time to change it round.

Interesting how you noticed this, I thought I was doing okay with conversations, not having as many as I want to but improving all the same. Would have taken me a while to come up with the true reason by myself.

Agreed. Far too much analysis. Approach outside of a work environment, then post a field report on that. It would be far more useful

Saw a woman today, just a little older than me, shouting at a guy for "trying those sexual innuendo pick up lines" on her.

She was fuming and I went over to her to calm her down. Ended up giving her a little massage to loosen up those shoulders and the neck muscles then I said "right comon, let's go for a coffee, you're buying, that massage was surely the price of a good cup of coffee".. bricking myself when I said that in hope that she wouldn't flip out at me, and she didn't, she laughed... relief!

Had our coffee, talked about loads of topics, talked a lot about the winter period too and she has an interest in skiing and snowboarding which is cool as I go away to Italy for a week soon to practice my awful winter sports technique. Showed her a few pictures on my phone and took a picture of her and copped it over a picture of me skiing, then sent it to her via the old modes of file transfer; bluetooth. She loved it.


Didn't get her phone number, don't know why, but she has added me on Facebook and sent me a little message, even though I told her 3 times I don't use it. Reply tomorrow, no idea what it say's - most likely "Hi, just to let you know, I'm your new stalker. Please message me back."

Nice work taking charge of this situation and pushing your own boundaries. Did you find out what made her so mad with the guy who chatted her up?

She said that when a guy approaches her randomly, she knows he's interested. There's no need to then say something sexual because to her, it just makes her think that sex is all you think she's good for and that you don't want to know her really. She doesn't mind little sexual hints and stuff through a conversation, but to start the conversation complementing her appearance or saying something sexual, will provoke a harsh reaction because she isn't a fuck doll... And yup I did laugh a bit and choke on my coffee for a second when she said fuck doll.

Good on you man

Got my first go at been the floor section manager today so I managed about 8 newbies, which was cool. Worked 42 hours since Wednesday, that's an achievement in itself tbh.

Now everytime a manager see's me they're asking me to go to the xmas party ; free food, alcohol and transport, plus no work the next day... - fuck yeah I'll go.

Out of work I spoke to a few people.

A lad on the bus who works at McDonalds. Chatted about general work torments and just having a laugh about christmas.

A work collegue got on the bus aswell, so was chatting to her for a while about a whole host of different topics.

A few others, mainly the women and the old folk who reconised me from working at M&S, they had a chat with me. A few girls my age and 1 in particular that mutually flirts with me a few times a week in the store. General having a laugh and running round buying presents.

You've got the gift of the gab sorted. Might be a good idea to # close any girl that gets into conversation, linked with an activity to do (Coffee, smoothie, shopping, a drink). Doesn't have to be anything direct. Don't see it as taking value or ruining a good chat but as a way to extend that conversation into a relationship. Adding value.

It pisses me off sometimes just how much energy work takes out of me. But the travel does get me about and meeting new people so I shouldn't complain. I'm starting to treat work as just another aspect of my social experiment now and I think you're doing the same...and they gives you money.