I went to the pub earlier to think about all my numbers, etc. over a craft ale. For this one my follow-up msg will be me poking fun at her profile/photos in a flirty way. I'll leave it til tomorrow though, don't want to be too damn keen eh.

you are too keen tho because you are thinking about not looking too keen

Not quite Refl3x. I'm too keen because I'm impatient and foolishly expecting all the girls to not have plans, or not play hard to get... oh and I haven't fucked for a month.

so whos chasing who
who is the person that is double thinking themselves

is she chasing you?, is she the one not giving you a second thought?
sounds like you are the needy one here and she is the one where you should be

Steady on. I'm not double thinking here, just thinking. On looking back at the way I have behaved so far in attempting to set up day twos, I have been too hasty and playing to their agenda. Thus I can see they have lost the initial attraction they had for me upon meeting and the initial texts/phone conversations.

Looking back through my text conversations I can see there has been a pattern where things just die a death, where once there was a big spark. I now intend to address it.

Nova, try taking the birds on an instant-date when you meet them!

In particular, work on chemistry/tension/sexy while at the coffee shop or pub. This might help make it go further, might help cut down on flakes.

"what are you doing right now?" / her: just shopping / "let's get a coffee, much more exciting than Primark's lurid clothes!"
...then start leading her by the hand out of the crappy shop


P.S. for your delectation and delight, a Rebus joke about instant-dates with Chinese bird:
"what are you doing right now?" / her: shopping / "well, I fancy having a Chinese!"

Rebus

Since checking out a variety of pua guru's points of view on day game, I've noticed there are two schools of thought on the instant-date with regards to flakes/success. I personally think its good from what I've experienced thus far.

I went on one a couple of weeks ago with a Vietnamese chick and it went great (see Girl 3 July 29th on this thread). I was perhaps escalating too hard for her tastes. Again, this could be down to my impatience, something I put down to coming out of a long term relationship a month ago.

I also offered an instant-date to a chick on Monday, but she said she had to go to a shop to change an item. This was something I was unwilling to take part in, but perhaps the Rebus line of, "let's get a coffee, much more exciting than ****", would be more fitting. I am now texting back and forth with this chick, so will be attempting to set up a day 2 at some point.

Fri 17th Aug

So yeah, it's one of my 4 days off I get each week, means one thing and one thing only, I'm out in the city doing direct approaches.

Girl 1: she ignores me and walks on

Girl 2: after walking around a fair bit thinking of approaching girls with their mates, I clock a girl on her own with a mega body. I compliment her on her hair and we chat. After 5 mins of good chat I tell her to give me her number. Boyfriend. Byeee.

Girl 3: visiting Manchester for the day and about to meet a mate.

Girl 4: Wow, it's a girl I chatted up a couple of weeks ago! She didn't have a phone last time or Facebk (she was fresh off the boat from China). I say hi, she recognises me straight away and is happy. We chat for about 10 mins. She has a phone now, so I grab her number. I ask what she's up to at the wkd. Turns out uni are setting up weekly trips around the uk til sept. Coincidentally a girl I Facebk closed last week, is going on the same trip... i wonder if they know each other haha!

From what she said all these Chinese students are pretty damn busy til sept. Perhaps I can use that as an excuse now for my high flakeage rate! Anyway, I tell her to hug me and give her a kiss on the cheek, she blushes and says that doesn't normally happen. Ha! That's the way I roll baby.

Girl 5: Gave me a funny look and said noooo thanks.

Girl 6: Taiwanese girl with a Spanish accent!! This one was haaaard work. This was a constantly moving set, but she didn't tell me to piss off. She did ask me if I was going to follow her and objected to me asking her questions, so I told her stuff about me and we started chatting while walking along. She was a feisty one. Upon finally getting her to slow to a stop we chatted some more and I told her to give me her number, she ended up giving me her Facebook. No worries, one of the best hopes i have for a day 2 at the mo is a girl I spoke to for 1 min and got her Facebook. Interesting.

Girl 7: Austrian girl. She is here on business for one day/night only and staying at a hotel in Stockport!? She asks me what landmarks she has missed. I then take her on a nice mini tour of architecture in Manchester and she snaps away. I think about how I might get her out that night, but she has work to do for a conference the next day in Stockport. She tells me she can show me around Vienna and we grab each others Facebook. I tell her to hug me and kiss her on the cheek.

Time to go home phew!!

This is how men should live.

They see something they want and they go after it.

Yeah, that'd be a solid frame. If you had already built some attraction and recieved IOIs, you could play the percentages by using an even harder line, implying sudden disinterest.

Something like... "hey we're having fun, we should get to know each other! I can't believe that you want to take back a dress to boring TopShop rather than hang-out with exciting me!... [pause, look down at ground like you would cry, or even start slowly walking away to create a sense of loss in her head]... right, [lead her by hand, as YOU have already decided] we get coffee NOW and AFTER THAT you can return all last year's clothes to TopShop in half an hour! What's best Starbucks or Costa?" *

* unless the shops are just about to close and it takes her ages to travel into town to return items! Ha! In that case, pushing like crazy would be unreasonable, as she would be very likely to say no AND be pissed off!

** fake question at the end to get her to respond; the fake question builds implied consent to the core agenda (going for a drink together now, Yes or No?)