I think Nova is seeking a relationship.

Plenty of 'ifs' here Kowalski. Do you have any points that relate to what happened in my field reports? After all I'm looking to learn from specifics, not assumptions.

The more I learn from all this, the more I get that feeling that you assume pickup to be purely about getting pissed in a club and having a one night stand... But then dating to be some sort of official act of courting where you assume one has to promise the girl the world before breaking her heart after getting sex. Not sure what gives you that cynical impression, especially regarding myself.

Ok, so as you have read I've struggled to lay, even kiss some of these girls within the realms of one, two, four dates. I am learning, this is why I write this thread. I am more than happy to admit this, and I have nothing to hide. We are all different, and so are the types of girls we deal with. One size does not fit all.


I don't know where I went wrong here. You'll have to tell me what you are talking about.


You could do with elaborating on this too.


Where you assume me meeting up with girls and hanging out with them is seen as a build up to a relationship I'll never know.

Always happy to make you chortle.

Ah right. Well, that's how relationships begin in many instances, isn't it - meeting up, hanging out and spending time with each other?

If your goal is to have no-strings-attached sex with these women, then I wouldn't have thought you would do what you have been doing. In other words, I would've thought that you would be far more direct with your intentions. Otherwise, to echo kowalski's sentiments, I would say that you are potentially misleading these women.

Out of interest Nova, of the women you've talked about in this thread, are there any that you would consider having a relationship with, if the opportunity arose? At this point, what are your intentions exactly?

I'm not having a dig, mate. It does sound like you have improved with how interact with women, which is great. Just be mindful that you don't mislead them.

You make it sound like spending any time with a girl = committed relationship

Does spending time with a girl pose this problem to you?


I am being as sexual as I have ever been, as early as I have ever been with girls. This will only improve the more I work on it. This takes time, this takes practice.


My intention is to grow and develop as a person. One huge part of this is experiencing what different girls I can meet and get to know, and this is beyond the confines of the bedroom. This goes as far as talking and spending time with them. You only find out who you want to spend time with by getting to know them do you not? I am hanging out with all sorts of girls I thought I would never get to meet, and loving every minute of it!

I'm not making it sound like that at all. But it does depend on what's being done in the time spent.

Yeah, I'm so good looking and charming that any time I spend with a woman makes them want to be in a relationship with me! Haha! I wish.

Back on the streets

With Christmas and other stuff, I'd not been out and about on the streets for a couple of weeks.


Thursday

I headed out for a bit, did a couple of approaches and was pretty fucking ropey. None of the girls would stop I was so tame. Man up!


Friday

This was so much better. I think this is the only day I have had every girl stop and chat with me as I was definitive in my actions, had a swagger and was laid back as fuck in conversation with them. The last interaction was awesome. I held her hand the whole time with her completely at ease and in my zone. She said she had to meet her friend, but didn't use it as an excuse to go, with her friend eventually turning up to say meet me as well.

Another girl i chatted to, some dude turned up, and as I went for her number I foolishly asked 'is that your boyfriend?' WTF. Needless to say she didn't give me her number.


Saturday

I was still drunk when I crawled from my pit. I made it into town and despite being shaky was pretty enthusiastic to chat to chicks. I made a point of getting more physical with all of my sets today. All of them I squared up to face to face, maintained solid eye contact, and held their hand beyond comfort.

I need to learn to back off if they become uncomfortable with my proximity, as a couple of them did, as I chased them if they backed off. I will learn to calibrate this shit the more I do it.

Nova will make mistakes. He will realise it is a mistake if he does not get the desired outcome. It takes PRACTICE, where his behavours will AUTOCORRECT to the desired outcome eventually. Noobies...get this in your fucking heads. Just go out and do it. Be in the moment, enjoy the girl, don't be outcome dependent, act through your own intentions, blah blah blah, you know the score.. Getting this in your head takes practice (for me its not about techniques anymore, but, getting the right feeling in my tummy)

I congratulated Nova, because his interactions seem to be moving towards a positive desired outcome. All he needs to do is carry on. It's just a mental process, he knows what to do, he can see the world through his own eyes. I won't be "advising" him from now on (even though i'm very qualified to do this now), just patting him on the back.

P.S Hustler, you sell out

PPS I will try not to get ego attached to any inevitable backlash about this post....hit me baby! I'm just sharing the love

48 hrs of fun & beyond

As you may have already read in another thread I had my Bristol girl visit. This was a cracking 48 hours of sex, music, booze and a visit to the record shops in Oldham St. Shame she's back off to China in a couple of weeks, wouldn't have minded a few more sessions.


A soon as I got back from dropping her at the coach station I decided to ring this girl I met last Friday on Market St:

I had exchanged a couple of texts the same evening I'd met her, and no bullshit about how nice it was to meet her, I just mentioned stuff we'd chatted about and mentioned her friend's name. Anyway, all positive.

So I rang her tonight, she didn't answer, but the thing was she then rang me back. I've had a couple of girls text me asking if I'd called after missing my call, but this was new territory.

The most significant point about this initial interaction with the girl was the unflinching intent on my part and the immediate comfort she has with me touching her and looking into her eyes. I also felt pretty at ease to ask her which day she was free to meet up, as I knew she was well up for it... Friday it is.

The cocks are cumming home to roost! Shit, i'm crap with sayings! :/