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Being a challenge to women -
08-09-2011, 08:15 PM
A lot of this will be known to you from various sources and maybe some of it isn’t, but these were some of my favourites from the thousands of methods out there. None of this is meant to be mean, there is a fun spirit to everything below.
Make yourself a challenge from the very beginning. The most obvious is having a girlfriend naturally makes you hard to get, hang about with other women either friends or wings. Don’t introduce yourself, wait for her to ask. Don’t ask the usual chump questions ‘What do you do’, ‘Where do you come from’. Avoid excessive compliments Avoid excessive interviews Don’t follow her around the club, nothing says I’m sad more than this, we’ve all done it. Don’t give her your full attention, talk to the whole group, create a ‘Why isn’t he talking to me situation’ If she touches you tell her to stop it, something like ‘I just washed this shirt’. As soon as she knows you are interested the power is in her hands. What does she have to do? Nothing. Make her work, keep that at the back of your mind. Ignoring and declining her first invitation. Give her tests, either fun or serious. Make her qualifier herself to you, get her to express qualities that make her different from other girls. Chumps don’t leave girls, they stay ALL NIGHT, one of the best things you can do is walk away. I’d make her laugh then tell her I’m off or start talking to her friend. If she does it to you, like talking to her friend or answers the phone, walk away, chumps stand there waiting like knobs, ‘is it my turn yet’. Use the power of ‘Maybe’...maybe is such a powerful word, ‘Maybe I’ll see you later’, Maybe I’ll call you. Use body language, things like leaning back. Make her close the distance. Don’t think about rejection shouldn’t even enter your head, don’t think about it, just do it, no hesitations. Talk to her. It’s the only way to get good Top 10 ebooks | Flaking | Revitalizing Old Numbers | Cold Reading Pussy | Being a Challenge to Women     
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09-09-2011, 12:02 AM
MY VIEWS
Make yourself a challenge from the very beginning. AGREE The most obvious is having a girlfriend naturally makes you hard to get, hang about with other women either friends or wings. DONT DISAGREE Don’t introduce yourself, wait for her to ask. DUNNO ABOUT THIS, DOESNT ASS ME! Don’t ask the usual chump questions ‘What do you do’, ‘Where do you come from’. AGREE Avoid excessive compliments AGREE Avoid excessive interviews AGREE Don’t follow her around the club, nothing says I’m sad more than this, we’ve all done it. AGREE Don’t give her your full attention, talk to the whole group, create a ‘Why isn’t he talking to me situation’ AGREE If she touches you tell her to stop it, something like ‘I just washed this shirt’. AGREE .. but its gotta be with a big smile like ur joking... As soon as she knows you are interested the power is in her hands. What does she have to do? Nothing. Make her work, keep that at the back of your mind. SORT OF AGREE sort of right but i think ur viewing this how i used to ... its not when the power is in her hands, its when she thinks you will continue the flow even if she doesnt.. so u can let her know u like u, ust not enuf to be chasing too hard Ignoring and declining her first invitation. THIS CAN PUT A GIRL OFF!! they have feelings too ya know, especially if they stubborn.... ur best bet is smile and say... that would be cool, just dont set a date untill another day Give her tests, either fun or serious. TESTS ARE STUPID, just have fun with her <end> Make her qualifier herself to you, get her to express qualities that make her different from other girls. DONT AGREE... just have fun, thats all... dont even talk about qualities, or all that, just have fun Chumps don’t leave girls, they stay ALL NIGHT, one of the best things you can do is walk away. I’d make her laugh then tell her I’m off or start talking to her friend. GIRLS I KNOW & FUCK WOULD DROP U IN A HEARTBEAT FOR SAYIN THAT: if you value urself, you would end this interaction in a heartbeat if a girl said it.... so a high value girl (like who i like) wont take shit like tha... who exactly r u like?? If she does it to you, like talking to her friend or answers the phone, walk away, chumps stand there waiting like knobs, ‘is it my turn yet’. If your havin fun she wont be, but u are right!! Use the power of ‘Maybe’...maybe is such a powerful word, ‘Maybe I’ll see you later’, Maybe I’ll call you. Maybe is VERY POWERFULL! but u gotta say it like ur actually busy, not just doin it for power... coz then she will make it a game. Use body language, things like leaning back. BODY LANGUAGE YES.... Limbo Dancin lessons NO Make her close the distance. I pull them toward me and close the distance myself... then laff and push them away.... then pull again... im a man, i take control of the distance thats my views on tha
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09-09-2011, 06:34 AM
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09-09-2011, 06:39 PM
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Ignore all that bullshit. Know yourself. Own yourself. Live. Seriously mate sounds like some profound bullshit or maybe it was dreamt up after several joints? Let me get this right, chump makes the effort to sign up to this forum seeking guidance for getting women, reads your post suddenly has that 'aha' moment and has success with women instantly. My advice is something that can be used tonight and a little more practical. Sure its not going to fix the innner shit but at least he might get a feel for pussy before he starts down the long road of self development. Don’t think about rejection shouldn’t even enter your head, don’t think about it, just do it, no hesitations. Talk to her. It’s the only way to get good Top 10 ebooks | Flaking | Revitalizing Old Numbers | Cold Reading Pussy | Being a Challenge to Women
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10-09-2011, 10:22 PM
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i dont think u get a fair council however from k... as he clearly isnt fond of u
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11-09-2011, 02:16 PM
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My motives are simple on the one hand a lame fuckabout on the other passing on my experience which occasionally gets me thanked. As for k I actually prefer it this way, its much more fun. Don’t think about rejection shouldn’t even enter your head, don’t think about it, just do it, no hesitations. Talk to her. It’s the only way to get good Top 10 ebooks | Flaking | Revitalizing Old Numbers | Cold Reading Pussy | Being a Challenge to Women
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11-09-2011, 03:08 PM
I find it difficult to comment on threads like these because there's such a fucking paradox like allot of things in pick up.
I’ve only skimmed through this thread and I agree with allot of the points raised but i think people should always remember that "The self is ALWAYS coming through" - TD. You can do what K said or Phil and it will work if you are doing it form a place of "I AM ENOUGH" But if you’re like a really needy guy you could do all of these things that these guys have said but the girl will STILL know or should I say feel deep down that you need her validation. The simple reason for this is because anything that you do from a place of REACTION kills attraction  .But the only way to learn not to do things from a place of reaction is to GO OUT A SHIT LOAD and fuck up again and again and again, it’s fucking ironic lol. Example of what I mean by the self is always coming through. Vocal Tonality Breakdown. T.R Trying for rapport – “The tone of voice that you use when asking someone polity for something that you really need” N.R Neutral rapport “The tone of voice that you use when having a general conversation with a male friend that you feel is on the same level as you” B.R Braking rapport “The tone of voice that you use when you see someone doing something there not supposed to be doing and you ask them what they think there doing” Example Needy Guy: soooo what do you do for a living (T.R tone of voice) HB: (This guy is TRYING for rapport with me he really wants me) blah blah blah I’ve got to go to the toilet now. Cool Guy: so what do you do for a living (B.R tone of voice) HB: (Wow this guy must be used to speaking to hot girls he’s not even trying for rapport I need to stand out) well I do this, that blah blah blah. HB starts qualifying herself. GO OUT AND DO BOTH T.R AND B.R MID CONVO WITH A CHICK AND SEE FOR YOURSELF, IT WILL FREAK YOU OUT. LOL
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10-10-2011, 02:12 AM
I read all with great interest.
Obviously this is, for the most part a refresher of the fundamental thinking of the community... and also a reminder of some of it's minor differences of opinion therein. If I may chip in, I think knave and Phil are both right to a certain extent, perhaps when Phil said "just have fun with her" this is one of the absolutely most important things, fundamental in fact. However, I can also see where Phil is coming from about not bothering to get her to qualify herself to you. I think a lot of rAFCs fuck up whilst on the training wheels because they neg and disqualify the hell out of HB6s and HB7s (who know that there are a good number of HB8s and 9s in the set, or social setting; therefore having rather fragile egos). Furthermore, a 6 or a 7 (perhaps 8s also) are used to having "naturals" inviting them to qualify themselves to them anyway, so it's not something new to them (which is what we want to give her). That said, I really do believe that getting a 9 or 10 to jump through your loops and qualify herself to you is really powerful, because even naturals/rich guys/brad pitt lookalikes will usually try to qualify themselves to 9s/10s. When you do this to her, it further reinforces the "make yourself a challenge part" and also gives her something she's either never had or very seldom had before. In my opinion it's a little beauty.
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