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Default 10-05-2011, 06:12 AM

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The truth is irrelevant. If someone tells you they were raped you believe them until you know otherwise.

Whether it's true or not is irrelevant anyway. She's likely done stuff with the guy before she got to that stage of drunkness. That's easy to find out, she can fuck off based on that opposed to whether it was rape or not. If she hadn't done anything with the guy before getting that wasted then it was certainly rape. Either way there would be witnesses to her behaviour earlier on.

I don't disagree with anything else you say, breakups hurt, I'm not contesting that at all. You realise that being afraid of losing someone is ridiculous when you realise that losing them is the right thing to happen under any circumstances, other than bereavement. Sure, it hurts, but it's a good thing.
I know people who have been banged up for a night because of fake girls crying rape when she was blatantly cheating on her boyfriend and then regretted it... For this reason I will believe she is lying until proven otherwise (Obviously there are exceptions etc).

And I also agree, since breaking up with my ex, my view has changed. When I was with her, I thought my world was ending as it was slowly breaking apart. But after. I felt refreshed, relieved and happy I got away from the psycho!
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Default 10-05-2011, 12:43 PM

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I know people who have been banged up for a night because of fake girls crying rape when she was blatantly cheating on her boyfriend and then regretted it... For this reason I will believe she is lying until proven otherwise (Obviously there are exceptions etc).

And I also agree, since breaking up with my ex, my view has changed. When I was with her, I thought my world was ending as it was slowly breaking apart. But after. I felt refreshed, relieved and happy I got away from the psycho!
See, the problem with believing she's lying unless proven otherwise is you set yourself up to lose the relationship since the vast majority of rape cases, true or not, all fail. The law favours the rapist because the cases are incredibly difficult to prove. Better to go by different measures.

I call bullshit on fake rape claims, they happen sure, but the only way you could possibly say assuming they're lying is logical would be if fake rape claims were more common than real ones. I call bullshit on that one. It happens, but rape is far more common.

Upon a bit of research, (YAY STATS) the false reporting rate is between 2 and 50% with the majority placing it between 8%(not including those that drop out of accusation) and 25%.
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Default 10-05-2011, 12:46 PM

could somone remind me what the point of this thread is again?


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See, the problem with believing she's lying unless proven otherwise is you set yourself up to lose the relationship since the vast majority of rape cases, true or not, all fail. The law favours the rapist because the cases are incredibly difficult to prove. Better to go by different measures.

I call bullshit on fake rape claims, they happen sure, but the only way you could possibly say assuming they're lying is logical would be if fake rape claims were more common than real ones. I call bullshit on that one. It happens, but rape is far more common.

Upon a bit of research, (YAY STATS) the false reporting rate is between 2 and 50% with the majority placing it between 8%(not including those that drop out of accusation) and 25%.
Perhaps I was being a bit stupid saying I will always believe she's lying. What I actually meant is that I am always skeptical as to how real a rape claim is.

And the point of the thread was, how do you respond when a girl says "its not you i dont trust, its everyone else"
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Default 10-05-2011, 05:39 PM

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just make sure you dont fall into the trap of letting her insecurities dictate wether you see your friends and enjoy yourself.
also ensure if her insecurities become more than a passing comment and instead turn into a source of friction/negativity that you make her aware that this is unnacceptable
Doesn't it just make you want to slap your soft test mates who refuse to accept this basic advice. So many guys allow themselves to be controlled by women its shocking
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Doesn't it just make you want to slap your soft test mates who refuse to accept this basic advice. So many guys allow themselves to be controlled by women its shocking
Dude i learned that the hard way! i`ll never make that mistake again


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Default 11-05-2011, 01:54 PM

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And the point of the thread was, how do you respond when a girl says "its not you i dont trust, its everyone else"
The logical conclusion based on upon the mindset I feel is healthiest (spoken about earlier) is simply to agree with her in the distrust of others. Everyone is seeking something from their interactions with us and we'd all be pretty stupid not to realise that. It might just be fun, but in many cases it's more. It's always important to bear in mind the motivations behind whatever people say. She has every right to distrust others.

The only reason it's a worry is because she doesn't feel reassured regarding it. That's because she doesn't feel like you understand where they're coming from. All you have to do is show that you understand the mindset by agreeing with her and feeding back the reasons for the mindset as I spoke of earlier. This doesn't remove the distrust of others, it does however remove the worry because you know your partner is aware of it. It shows they have the same social sense.

For me, I have added reassurance to people like this, I instantly lose attraction for anyone that tries anything with me while I'm in a relationship.(when they're aware of this). Obviously I make this clearly obvious as early as possible in most interactions.
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The only reason it's a worry is because she doesn't feel reassured regarding it. That's because she doesn't feel like you understand where they're coming from. All you have to do is show that you understand the mindset by agreeing with her and feeding back the reasons for the mindset as I spoke of earlier. This doesn't remove the distrust of others, it does however remove the worry because you know your partner is aware of it. It shows they have the same social sense.
Personally aggreeing with your gf that other women cant be trusted around you is feeding her mentality that you as a man are too weak to resist these girls which means you need to be controlled by your gf and limited from exposure to these situations
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Her: I just dontr trust other women around you
Me: I love you, you are my gf im not interested in other women, dont be silly


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I instantly lose attraction for anyone that tries anything with me while I'm in a relationship
In that situation she ticks my 'naughty' box against her name for future reference

if i think back to some of the most memorable things ive done -- the NAUGHTIEST things all rank at the top


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Default 11-05-2011, 04:46 PM

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Personally aggreeing with your gf that other women cant be trusted around you is feeding her mentality that you as a man are too weak to resist these girls which means you need to be controlled by your gf and limited from exposure to these situations
Umm, no. You've missed the point and are instead focusing on a distrust of you, which is fundamentally not what the problem is at first. It becomes a distrust of you when you make it one by being defensive and accusatory of her distrusting you. Whether you do that directly or not doesn't matter, it communicates it and creates it.

She fundamentally does not trust other women, for the same reasons I mentioned way earlier on. By making it quite clear that you're aware other of when other women are hitting on you and agreeing with her you make it clear that it's cool. In the event that she still has an issue you make it clear that shoudl she continue to have it then she's just going to push you away with neediness and attempts at control that are just unnecessary. The majority of the time that doesn't happen though, all that's necessary is a simple mutual understanding between two people.

If she's insecure about losing you it's one of two things, she's either got a low self esteem - which I doubt given the nature of the kinds of people everyone here wants. Or, alternatively, you created that insecurity in her by playing too many mind games. If it's the second thing, you only have yourself to blame.
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Default 11-05-2011, 06:30 PM

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"Its not you I don't trust, its everyone else".

Have you ever heard this? What do you think or how do you respond?
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