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Default 23-08-2011, 06:46 AM

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I say that, the fictional guy you're writing this for, that guy that needs to change, he doesn't need to change at all, not who he is anyway. What he needs to do is let go of all the fears, anxieties, issues and whatever else is holding him back from simply being who he wants to be. He is already that guy, he is simply holding back from doing these things due to all those fears.


This I believe is still what you suggest people should be. It is in essence, being whatever they want to be. If there is something you want to do, just do it, but do it without influence and without those fears. Striving to just be real, all the time. To ditch all the different personas put on based upon the type of people we're around, to just be the one true person 100% of the time.
Sometimes I wish society as a whole wasn't so judgmental about everything..

Sometimes the fears and anxieties people have about people around them are irrational and they need to let go of it, but a lot of the time, it is necessary to repress a certain portion of your true self just because 99% of the entire human race is an ass hole
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Default 23-08-2011, 08:17 AM

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I say that, the fictional guy you're writing this for, that guy that needs to change, he doesn't need to change at all, not who he is anyway.
i o however think they need guidance on how do dress & act. But this should be found through other means than books


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Default 23-08-2011, 10:00 AM

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Sometimes I wish society as a whole wasn't so judgmental about everything..

Sometimes the fears and anxieties people have about people around them are irrational and they need to let go of it, but a lot of the time, it is necessary to repress a certain portion of your true self just because 99% of the entire human race is an ass hole
If the majority people just stood back took a deep breath and think fuck its great to be a live and not be so up tight and hell smile more then all people would come across as happier not looking so glum as i think the glummies need to be more giving and not so fucking dull.

I think you can see that so many people are fearful and walking as if they are on a tight rope and i agree 99% are arse holes.
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Default 23-08-2011, 01:27 PM

Ahh. You make a good point Phil.

For some people there is a certain amount of reprogramming that needs to occur, lots of people have bad habits that they think are good. Those behaviours do need to change if getting more women is what they want.. Self development. I hadn't considered that angle. I think many of the negative behaviours they display come from a certain level of social bullshitting though, the fakeness being the source of all the problems. Personas or behaviours put on because they "think" it's what they should do when in fact chilling the fuck out and just being them does everything for you.

Books have a place as a spark for defining thought or conveying a message, they aren't what changes people's negative behaviours though.. Knowing everything about business theory doesn't make a good businessman. I think the vast majority of people here owe being here to a book, it didn't change them, it sparked it though.
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Default 23-08-2011, 01:37 PM

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Apologies for the poor and jumbled writing, tired.
This is the most readable of all your posts I've ever read.

I'm in agreement with the part about action defining what image is portrayed.
No one can see thoughts unless they are manifested in an action.

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Sometimes I wish society as a whole wasn't so judgmental about everything..

Sometimes the fears and anxieties people have about people around them are irrational and they need to let go of it, but a lot of the time, it is necessary to repress a certain portion of your true self just because 99% of the entire human race is an ass hole
Not true. 99% of the human race is wicked.

Yeah people are Judgemental - I have such a ridiculous amount of activity on my facebook since a friend discovered I go dancing - most of it is jokes!

Would I hide this - No, its what I'm interested in and part of the BEST VERSION of me.

My friends will talk about me, tell people that I do this, maybe tease me, and this is ALL great.

Its communicated I'm an interesting person, without me needing to tell people directly.

Image FTW.
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Default 23-08-2011, 01:58 PM

I wouldn't say that humans are wicked as such. Merely that without a connection to people we don't generally consider our effect on them, or care about them, or even treat them as real, emotional individuals. The way people treat each other online shows this brilliantly, monitors widen the disconnect.

Cracked's article on this problem is entertaining:

What is the Monkeysphere? | Cracked.com
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Default 23-08-2011, 02:03 PM

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This is the most readable of all your posts I've ever read.

I'm in agreement with the part about action defining what image is portrayed.
No one can see thoughts unless they are manifested in an action.

Not true. 99% of the human race is wicked.

Yeah people are Judgemental - I have such a ridiculous amount of activity on my facebook since a friend discovered I go dancing - most of it is jokes!

Would I hide this - No, its what I'm interested in and part of the BEST VERSION of me.

My friends will talk about me, tell people that I do this, maybe tease me, and this is ALL great.

Its communicated I'm an interesting person, without me needing to tell people directly.

Image FTW.
Wicked meaning AWESOME or EVIL?

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I wouldn't say that humans are wicked as such. Merely that without a connection to people we don't generally consider our effect on them, or care about them, or even treat them as real, emotional individuals. The way people treat each other online shows this brilliantly, monitors widen the disconnect.

Cracked's article on this problem is entertaining:

What is the Monkeysphere? | Cracked.com
Perhaps I exaggerated saying 99% of the human population is an asshole..
But I bet I'm not far off.. Everyone is so uptight and judgmental and stuff..
I wish I lived in Japan where most people are ethical and nice to each other (at least from anything I've ever read or heard about them anyways)

It is true that people's opinions of you do not matter, and as long as you are being your best self then nothing really matters, but seriously why can't everyone just be peaceful and drop all the hate in the world
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Default 23-08-2011, 02:13 PM

You should read the article. The problem isn't so much that people are bad for bad reasons, more so that we are essentially flawed because of our inability to comprehend more than 150 people as a part of our emotional reality.

Grey. Everything is grey and reminding ourselves of this when we make judgements is important to ensure we're not doing the same. You're doing exactly what you're complaining about right now Alpha, judging millions of people as a single entity because you're unable to comprehend them within the limitations of the 150 emotional reality.

Edit: It's known as Dunbar's number, for anyone wishing to look into it further. It's a fundamental part of evolutionary psychology.

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You should read the article. The problem isn't so much that people are bad for bad reasons, more so that we are essentially flawed because of our inability to comprehend more than 150 people as a part of our emotional reality.

Grey. Everything is grey and reminding ourselves of this when we make judgements is important to ensure we're not doing the same. You're doing exactly what you're complaining about right now Alpha, judging millions of people as a single entity because you're unable to comprehend them within the limitations of the 150 emotional reality.
Yeah this is true, I will read the article tonight.. and I am being very judgmental and stereotyping billions of people, and it may be because I cannot grasp them all in my emotional reality..

But, whenever I am in public, seeing or talking to brand new people, I am kind and nice. If somebody was in a queue and didn't have enough money for their coffee, I'd help um out. If someone looks down or sad, I will ask if they are okay, things like that.. I'll gladly talk to someone in the lift in a dead silence..

But over the years I have noticed that the general majority aren't like that. There are many nice and kind people, but just from seeing out of my own eyes, it SEEMS that the majority are the opposite, and I don't understand why..

But I feel like this thread has gone way off the rails and think I may start a new one after some thinking on this subject...

Thanks Phil for the original post and thanks Jay for some thought provoking posts on this thread
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Default 23-08-2011, 02:23 PM

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I wouldn't say that humans are wicked as such.
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Wicked meaning AWESOME or EVIL?
Wicked as in AWESOME.
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