Went on plenty of fish last night and did the whole telling them off for not even writing a bio..

I think it worked since I've just been invited over for some mid afternoon sex

Its just an alternative way of making initial contact, from "day 2" onwards its no different.

And ... are you seriously trying to tell me that a girl is less at risk from meeting wierdos when drunk in a club than on the internet ?? - a stranger is a stranger no matter how first contact occurs.

Its all about using online dating in the right way. You effectively get to practice all of the post-approach stuff before your approach skills are fully developed. That way you can actually end up approaching with the confidence that, should the approach go well, your not going to flounder after that.

Let's face it though. In the club/street/normal situation you can select a girl you not only like the look of in the flesh, but one who you get on with. This is less likely as you edge your way towards that first meeting in real life.

Having met 50+ (numbers not age lol) women from dating sites my experience has been very different to yours ....

Without fail they will cease all other dating activity once we've agreed to see each other again after first date (which is about 60% of the time). If anything they seem relieved that they have "found someone" and so don't have to plough through hundreds of messages anymore. The vast majority made it clear they were up for an LTR after 2nd or 3rd date

Could be differences in demographic - my target zone is mid 30s career women, or style - I never shag on first date.

Also youve told us how fit you are many times and again in my experience women dont "trade up" guys based on looks alone - they set a baseline and so long as your above that your fine so long as your competition doesn't have something else very compelling to offer ( or you have a particular deficiency ...).

Its possible that the girls are simply suffering buyers remorse - they didn't go to meet you consciously intending to shag on first date, and despite getting a good seeing to, they had to bin you off in order to avoid cognitive dissonance.

Again IME demonstrating to a girl that you need sex from her less than she needs it from you is about the most powerful seduction thing you possibly do. Pushing for first date shags denies you the opportunity to play this card.

Same - ive dated doctors, all sorts

Ive never said that

Very good point -- i am ruthless and waste no time and would say 85% of my first dates were fucked on the same night
and i have been tossing the above notiion round in my head

Very good point
again somthing ive been thinking about which i will try

Indeed. I am not saying that. I'd say each have the fair share of weirdos. The risk comes with taking a guy to bed within hours of meeting him. Getting sexual with a stranger is where the risk lies.

I think you can size them up better irl than pof. irl there are thousands of tiny behaviours - intent and reaction signals between the two of you. you can feel the other person's sexual interest and its all being recorded in the girl's mind and linked to your physical self. Internet interaction links any feelings she has to a facsimile of you, an imagined estimation of what ur like. When u meet in real life u have to work to retrigger these previous interaction memories and anchor them to urself due to lack of recognition. Not that everyone isnt an imagined estimation based on previous evidence to everyone else anyway, they absolutely are, but physicality is important to reproductive processes.