ill do it here.

the reason women break down these barriers is simple.

First of all people perceive me as a free spirit, to which most people would love to have the attitude of NOT GIVING A FUCK.

some girls (ALOT) tend to feel threatened by me, and are instant cunts towards me... (most of which are idiots who cant take criticism as a joke)

but lets say im talking to a girl, i will make it clear with a large smile on my face of how girls all pertain to be miss priss but really underlying in it all, is a mischevious girl... tell them "well keep it our secret"

and i say "and your gonna do your utmost to defend the point but i can see it in your eyes, there is a little devil inside, women are very bad"

and they always smile....

its like u touch on somethin everyone has, eventually they become comfortable in that you know a part of them most dont, and will tell u some FRIGHTFULL stories....

maybe there is more to it but all girls EVERY ONE has skeletons in their closet.

and you wont EVER find out unless she wants you too.

Phil, you've said it plenty of times, don't waste your time with the ones that aren't attracted to you. Be direct and find out if they're into you straight away, blah blah blah.

Now you're saying that's not you whatsoever? Make your mind up mate.

i dont say be direct & find out if there into u str8 away

ive never said that, ive said be direct, tell her what u want., dont act like u wanna be just friends when u dont... and this is in an instance of bein out in a club... most of the girls i fucked have been met outside of a club situation.

theres no point in a club tryin to GET TO KNOW someone.

being dominant & taking what u want works for me in all aspect of life, not just women,

that doesnt mean all i do is walk up to girls & go HEY LETS FUCK... i still put leg work in. i still have & make sure i can be assed with her, make sure she can laugh, hold an intelligent convo... isnt needy, or whiney...on top of that she has to be fit...

where you would go "i would really like if we can meet up again, how can we contact eachother"

i would say

"ok put your number in that & we will do somethin" mine expects a yes.

the other is weak.

u would well to listen to what i have to say rather than acting sanctimonious & dismissing.. especially since every person ive ever helped has become better in themselves & achievements for it

Where'd you get that idea from? I've never said anything to suggest anyone should do that. Are you speaking generally?.... Again.

At no point have I said that any of the actual pieces of advice or theories you have are wrong Phil, you mistake my ethical issues and disagreements with your sweeping generalisation for disagreement on other points. That's another mistaken generalisation there mate.. Just because I disagree with you on one thing doesn't mean I disagree with you on others. I anticipated this response, I made a point of a specific part of what I said because I believed you'd pick at it:

Instead you've chosen to pick at things I haven't said at all.

I do concede though, I think you're right though I can't be bothered to go and double check, I probably have gotten exactly what you've said previously wrong. I have a habit of extrapolating smaller statements into wider ideas which is probably what I've done there. My apologies mate.

i speak in generalisations as they are the most common occurrences, granted there are times when this is wrong, but as a whole, generalisations are there for a reason, because it is what generally occurs.

Yes, that's correct, but you have to be wary of generalising without clearly stating that you're speaking generally. Generalisations are fine when they're acknowledged but so many of your statements lately have been generalisations without such acknowledgement. It leads people to think that you believe the absolute statements you're making and causes people to make errors of judgement. That's fine when you're not too bothered by it and it's out in the real world, or when it's amongst people that know you very well, but in writing and in environments full of people looking to others to learn it's not.

People usually assume the quality of someone's statement as truthful, an unqualified generalisation is misleading when you don't mean it literally and leads to all sorts of misunderstandings. As we've demonstrated!

Its true, if you have the two qualities of being built and looking friendly and suave, women approach you. My mate always has this.

ye, but we always learn based on the median... we then make our own judgements of anything outside of which once we know what the general consensus is.

its better to learn what the common occurrence is as probability means its the most likely circumstance u will come across.

teaching someone about something that happens rarely & preaching it as a main basis of how to understand somethin isnt helpfull in my eyes. if u meet 100 women, 98 will fall into the general rule....

as far as im concerned

fucking hell guys!

How did such an amusing, informative, thought provoking thread turn into such a diatribe of navel gazing and politico speak.


RLA Jay - Dude, this is just a forum for blokes wanting to get into Girls Knickers. I appreciate the messages you want to convey. But do you have to do it in such a Verbose, lecturing way. I swear it's often like you need to be the final word on everything. Why?

Phil- Stop arguing and get back to telling us sexy stories an the fabulous flights of fancy and saucy musings your brain takes us all on.

S'all just a laugh innit?

Cheers for that. Sometimes with the really hot birds, I just feel like I need to bring the whole thing down to a more real level, they're so used to making guys play with their persona. I can see the structure to what you're doing, will give it some thought.

PS