In a cooperative society this is just false. You're oversimplifying and aren't accounting for everything else in the world.

Did you ever look into game theory?

This is so unbelievably false I don't know where to start. Do you know anything at all about how genetic variation occurs and balances itself or are you just talking out of your ass here based on knowledge you've acquired from talking to that bloke that agrees with you in the pub? Are you aware that we are ALL inbred and related in some way or other?

because you always bring the don't fuck girls with boyfriends thing into it. the quote was.

"He who is self-righteous is not
respected"

and if you haven't noticed you are losing respect from the forum members. I'm not saying this as a personal attack. people hate being judged. As the saying goes.

"A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still"

as far as I'm concerned phil was manipulated and she voided her blame by telling him when he was already in her web.

Chops, I couldn't give a shit about being respected by anyone that thinks it's acceptable to fuck with anyone else's relationship.

I also think that you're misrepresenting the quote by taking it so far out of context. The self righteous aren't respected because they believe themselves to be infallible, that's what self righteousness is.

I am not self righteous as I do not believe myself to be infallible. I've been demonstrably judgemental though, it's important to note that I look down particularly on the behaviours, not generally the people. I find talk on forums to be interestingly unreliable as a judgement of who a person is or whether I would like that person offline. I think it's a complete dick thing to do but does that mean I think someone is a dick? No it does not.

I've mentioned to Kowalski before that I try not to build opinions of people based on their forum usage. People are often completely different to the way you think they are in your head after interacting mainly in an online environment.

Telling him last minute was to ensure that Phil didn't think less of her for being a cheat. Many people test the thoughts of those around them before they act themselves in order to see if people will think worse of them or not. If Phil had shown he viewed it as a bad thing she would have adamantly been faithful to her partner and think cheating is disgusting so that she aligned herself with things that Phil believes and likes. Telling him last minute was very wrong and manipulative, I agree with you.

The fact that she did something wrong however doesn't matter at all.

well I'm off to bed you've got me thinking though.

After Morning sex of course!

Not gonna argue this too much, I largely agree. I do however think that the events that occur in our lives can lead us to new mindsets without our realisation, or that certain happenings in our lives can lead us to do things out of character or something that we would be angry at ourselves for doing.

I've met people who have cheated that would never, ever do it again. A mistake that they thoroughly regret. I've also met chronic cheaters, the kind that lie in order to cheat some more and string multiple people along.

Since we're hypothesising the future I see no problem with hypothesising the present. Who is to say that something occurring in her life right now hasn't completely fucked her head up and is the cause of her cheating? A dead loved one could be the result of an absolute mental fuck up she's going through and for all we know she would never EVER do something like this in her right mind, love her partner to pieces and have a disney relationship together. We've all been through incredibly emotional events in our lives, we all know just what it is to have your head spinning and do completely fucking retarded things, in hindsight. To make bad decisions because your head just isn't working the way it should do. This is an equally possible scenario, one that I'm more inclined to lean towards... I think it's the crying. On top of that scenario many people admit their misdeeds due to guilt, ruining the relationship permanently, all because of x horrible event in her life causing her to make a terrible decision because her emotions were doing backflips.

But then, really none of us know nor will we ever. I'm pretty sure that even don't give a fuck Phil would feel pretty bad about it in the above scenario and if he had that kind of knowledge would have utterly refused her... The thing is that none of us know the outcomes of our actions, the effects we have on other lives, the circumstances that are acting behind the person on the face of a story, etc etc. The natural action of people that act immorally is to justify it as acceptable "because" and lean towards the belief of it being x situation that suits their "it's ok because" mindset. It is necessary to imagine things as the absolute "no I wouldn't because" version of their possibility because you simply can not know, this in turn stops you from doing them. Yes, not all of them will be that but in order to stop those worse cases from occurring it's necessary.

But one awful x event doesn't make it OK to cheat..
If my girlfriend's mum died, I still don't expect her to be banging someone else

I'm not saying it makes it ok to cheat, I'm saying that the surrounding knowledge of another person's actions changes a person's decisions, in this case, the decision to sleep with her or not.

why does everyone think my inability to find a suitor is some strange Freudian issue.

im just VERY VERY picky, she has to be fit as fuck, shaved pussy, taste nice, nice body, funny & quick, able to challenge me, sexy, adventurous, intelligent but not to the point where she believes everything she thinks is correct.

ive found a girl who fits that exact bill... do i want her as my bird, Nah, cz i like being single!

im shit hot at it.

I think somtimes even when Miss Perfect comes along it still depends on where you are in yourself. I think its healthy for guys and gals to at some point play the field and i think we all need to before we get our 'settle' down head on.