Hey all, quick info, I'm a 23 year old guy (who happens to be gay) and wanted to basically sum this down into 2 questions...

1) Do you know of any famous gay PUA's in the community that I could look into
and
2) Do you think many of the techniques to pick up straight women could also be used to pick up gay men?

Thanks...

dont see why not mate,
Often, if I happen to open a set of girls that have a gay guy amongst them, I treat him the same way I treat all the other girls, I get just as much attention from the guy as I do the girls, I don’t mind a bit of flirting from the guys, its harmless as long as I clarify that im not gay.

Plus, its not just about pick up, its about bettering yourself, escalating your social skills, once you become confident enough people will recognize this, this is what is attractive, you can make friends or girlfriends/boyfriends so simply.

So to answer your question, yes I think it would work but no, I don’t know any gay pua’s.

Generalizations work too

Anyone could get laid to those who are willing to give it to them, the problem is those who are readily available for sex (whether it be gay men or straight women) are not exactly the most attractive and neither are they the ones we're after.

Correct me if I'm wrong but this community isn't simply about getting sex, is it? I mean, $50.00 could get you sex. What we want (or rather, what I want) is the ability to be confident enough in social circles to (successfully) interact with those I'm most attracted to.

When someone says "I know people who are XYZ" that doesn't really prove anything, it's anecdotal evidence. I'm constantly surrounded by people in the gay community, and I know that most are not sexually promiscuous. Now if I were to judge the straight community based on people I meet at bars at 3am then I could also assume most have an IQ of 7.

Just because gay guys are...guys, doesn't make it "easy" to get into bed unless you plan on getting into bed with the residential whore which clearly not a lot of people would be interested in...

This is an interesting perspective thanks Maze44 for your points of view.

Equally surprising are those too lazy to look into the "sources" they use, for instance, the "Whitehead and Whitehead 1999" was conducted by N.E. Whitehead, a prominent anti-gay advocate. When anyone (either directly or indirectly) calls homosexuality (or the "lifestyle", whatever that is) a 'mental illness' all credibility goes out the window faster than it does for a mathmatetician claiming 1+1 is 3.

And besides, who would be dumb enough to believe the average homosexual has over 100 sexual partners? lol...

Your second source made me laugh...

Let's just ignore the fact that taking the results of an NYC-related magazine from the 90's and combining it with an NCHS statistic to apply to the general LGBT community is a logical fallacy (nizkor.org/features/fallacies/biased-sample.html), suppose the respondents were in fact telling the truth.

It's 2010 last time I checked, and how would any publication be able to legitimately analyze the amount of sexual partners one has in any given lifetime or period? You have to take into account biases, demographics, and EVEN at how those who define a "sexual relationship"

Simply trying to qualifying such a ridiculous argument is about as stupid and idiotic as me judging the entire PUA community based on the VH1 TV-show, and me claiming that "90% of the ones in the community are unattractive virgins"

I know what you're saying, it's not complicated, it's just wrong and I'm actually surprised you're willing to believe that the average gay male has over 100 sexual partners lol, I mean that's just borderline insane.

Anyone and their mother could say "I heard that..." or "I once read that...".

Also, I can't help but mention how interested you are in the "sexual" aspect of this. Having sex is easy, if your goal is to simply have sex then why are you in this community? For instance, you said:

...actually, when compared to the gay community, I'd argue sex is probably 100x more available to you than it is for me based on the fact that straight people overwhelmingly outnumber gay people.

Leaving the club scene out of it, how many gay guys do you think are picking up guys in your everyday places like a cafe, or supermarket, or whatever? At least you have the ability to go up to every girl, guaranteed any guy I'd go up to either won't admit they're gay or, far more likely, won't be gay.

wow, this is turning into quite the heated discussion and an interesting read.

I commend the both of you.

but maze, I have to disagree with your theory on the fact that the number of heterosexuals vastly outnumbers that of homosexuals means that it is “100x” easier for a straight man to pull.
this simply isn’t the case.
I believe it is quite the reverse,
because of the mass number of hetro men, women have a much wider verity to choose from, making it harder to stand out and attract the girl you truly desire. this is why the pickup industry was invented, to help give those in the community more effective tools in order to stand out and get the girl.

im not an expert in the gay scene, but it seems to me that gay men, like all other men as you pointed out earlier, are up for sex and the inferior size of the gay community supplies a higher success rate

what if, because the gay community is smaller and so one gay male meeting another gay male is a lot rarer than a straight man meeting a straight woman, when an opportunity arises there is more of an intent for sex.

just my opinion.

plus men are a lot more subjective to sex.

and like kowalski mentioned, I too have several gay friends, all of whom seem to have a pretty high success rate when it comes to sex.

but what do i know, i have never attemted to seduce another man.

There are definitely more heterosexual men (and therefore more options for women to choose from) but the thing is most men are not making themselves available (or rather, making the approaches), the ones that are are technically the only ones with the shot (the only exception are the good-looking 10/10 guys who get approached).

I sort of compare it to opening a clothing store in a small rural, scarcely populated community and opening that same store in Times Square. In the former you may be the only clothing store in town but the amount of money you make in Times Square, despite the competition, will trump the rural community store.

I have no problem getting sex, it's just I'd rather have sex with people that I'm very attracted to as opposed to the male-equivalent of a whore.

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Casual gay sex seems readily available compared to the ammount of women posting for sex with only males.