Yeah sure, i would very much appreciate that. Just been reading some stuff on Kant Kant but ive not been awake long enough and it's hurting my head.
I've actually decided to do my independant study at college on film and morality. I've had a word with my tutor, and he said theres no need to go too deep into it, cos it's just a 3000-4000 word essay so I've just got to talk a little bit about moral ethics and then choose a couple of films that have this as a theme (or included in the theme). so if you've got any ideas there that would be greatly appreciated!!

I'm getting turned on at the thought

Just taking that line out of context.. your right.

The subject is being a moral PUA. So why raised the point... because your in set and the girl says "i have a BF".. I've never EVER heard a woman say i'm someone's girlfriend! ergo, placing some ownership over the male in question.

In addition i'm highlighting the fact that the concept of women going with another guy on a night out, even if she has given herself to another man (bf/gf), is her choice, she has given herself that role, and equally can take it way again, make out, sleep with who she chooses. But is that the sort of trust worthy woman you would want in your life.... i certainly would not, as i wouldn't do that to someone i had willingly given myself to.

Peace guys.

A good essay title for this I think may be 'Can an understanding of ethical guidelines be affected through movies?' If anyones got any movie suggestions for this lets ave em?

Crime carrot lol!

Sorry return to your sensible debate

It is a catch 22 because people have compared the BF/GF status in terms of ownership..


... and i'm highlighting to compare steeling a PC / Laptop / mobile to making out with a girl in a club is wrong.


The moral standpoint for me, is how i would feel should the reverse happen to me. Ergo i would never do this knowingly to someone else.


I'll go shave me bollox in prep for the slapping.. ZING!

Retro

I'm torn between doing something along the lines of this,

Or something along the lines of this.



I think a good vs evil theme could be really cool, perhaps a film like Lord of the Rings, or as you say Star Wars, but I'm just not sure I'm philosophically equipped enough to take this on, and I've only got a month and a half before it needs to be done.

I think something about production constraints and values/morals that have evidently changed over time will be easier for me to do and research, and I have already covered similar topics so it's not completely new territory for me. However I don't think it will be as interesting as the good vs evil/moral dilemma kind of theme, so I need ti think about it and do some research. I've actually already started this thing twice now. I was gonna do propaganda film to begin with but found it quite boring. A film/philosophy theme would be something that I would find interesting and so would be able to produce my best work.

Thanks for the ideas man! Much love and respect!
I'll send you a pm with what I decide on and the films i'm gonna go with.

You could also do Apocalypse Now, Vietnam being a morally dubious war and extreme examples of and the twisting of morals. You'll probably find lots of material on it as well, as well as links to heart of darkness
In fact here's a few links I found just typing in 'apocalypse now morals' into google http://traumwerk.stanford.edu:3455/trauma/92 "Apocalypse Now" by B. Ruby Rich

Thanks man! Interesting thoughts.

Hey,

got a message from legend so I'll post quick. Sorry if its a bit rushed. I haven't read the back-log after the initial post...

“how immoral it is to have your evil way with a fair maiden that is already taken by a fellow geeza.”

“An ounce of action is worth a ton of theory.” Friedrich Engels

I wouldn't bother. Show your dignity by waiting it out if she's worth it, or knock it on the head and move on.

You might also get into a lot of shit. How angry could you be, if someone 'picked up' your girl?

Generally on morality...

dismissing all the stuff about 'why be moral etc' – generally take it as a good, human thing to be moral and get on with it. Over philosophizing killed the cat.

How to be a moral pick up artist ???...

The first thing I'd suggest is not be a pick up artist. This community is generally linear and a bit lame. Get what you can from it and move on!!

Best to be a moral person – everything, from women and all else, is then based on your own morality.

Legend, I find it unlikely that you're meeting a girl you like (who is taken) every day on a platonic basis without her getting 'ideas' etc... You might want to think what she thinks the relationship is.

I was out with a bunch of girls the other night, all celebrating because one of the girls kissed a guy she liked. Women are very sensitive beasts!

By being attractive you will generally upset a lot of women anyways. Why? Because even if you do 'manage expectations' she'll want to be with you anyways. And then upset when you leave (even if for her own benefit). I have certainly found this, and I know Kowalski has too. So anyways, this is tough stuff. No easy answers....

Google humanism for some non-religious morality.

Bw

anthony

I respect where you coming from with this... lets face it there could be some guy out there right now tossing himself off at the thought of his girl being picked up by some random stranger and fucked within an inch of her life. Everyones reality is different.

But as part of a conversation with a girl who states "i have a boyfriend", do you / would you say, does your boyfriend let you get fucked by other guys? even if you did, she may not even know the answer (he's kept the truth from her).

So the only moral stand point you can possibly have, is to be true to yourself, and do unto others as they do unto you.

you better!