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Default Past the front door advice please:S - 15-08-2011, 06:46 PM

This has been my first weekend heading out and just hitting targets for numbers etc.I did get a lot of anxiety but once i was there chatting no probs.I did pretty well got a few numbers etc.Friday i was invited over for dinner to a chicks house.It ended up being a total blow out tho all she wanted was to talk to me about her new bf and ex husband,plus i never got a word in edgeways boring onto the next.
Saturday night i managed by winging it somehow to get back to a chicks place,but she brought her friend who just cock blocked all night.By 1-2 i knew i wernt gona get any or shake the m8 so i just left in a rather bad mood (probs the wrong move now i come to think of it).
Today i took the hottest chick i got the number of house hunting with me.It was going well all day ioi`s` laughs i think i maintained and alpha ish ness.She was even like i aint had none in 10 weeks im gagging.So im like lets grab some food at yours.Get in get some food hit the bed and BOOM she sits at the bottom of the bed me at the top.Thats it man nufin everything i tried couldnt get her back into the mood man.It sucked so bad,she started getting techy and texting a guy i know who isnt alpha but well built and thinks hes alpha.Then she was like i think u should go im tired
That guys obviously gona be round there now banging her and im left here thinking what the fuck went wrong.Tbh i was that angry on the way home i was ready to lay waste to some furniture.But some guy got on the bus in a wheel chair who was bairly able to close his wallet.That calmed me down a bit,as i was like i can fix me problems he cant!!
I aint happy still and feeling a lil negative,theres no way im giving up this is no1 priority in my life right now.But this flailing around in the dark hoping for the best is doing my head in.
Anyways long story short,id done all the hard work i should be laying waste to that last bird as we speak.What might i have done wrong??i didnt go all come her please or do any needy shit i dont think??ive been hunting for advice on the net and i cant really find 2 much its all focussed on approach etc and although theres much to learn in this area i seem faily comfortable with it,any advice out there for im at her home/or mine,how do i get the knickers on the floor??


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Default 15-08-2011, 07:15 PM

The girl sat on the end of the bed and you were at the top of the bed.. go into more detail into this situation please..

You should have been using kino, touching her hands, hair etc being playful, joyful in a happy mood, start kissing her etc.. seems odd from what you've said.. go into detail on it
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Default 15-08-2011, 08:00 PM

Well we just got in and the mood totally changed??maybe i got over excited and douched it but i sat down on the top of the bed making light convo etc she stopped being receptive lay down near the bottom and was just like im tired,which she may have been.But the good vibes just seemed to shut off.Then she started figeting and playing with her phone which pissed me off and probs showed.
I hadnt been holding hands with her all day,but i did do touching,tickling i even dry humped her on the field joking about when she said she was randy.Id negged and tried a bit of push/pull, plus tried not to give away my value whilst lowering hers.It certainly wasnt perfect and a bit messy in parts but i think maybe i should of manned up a bit and went for it a bit earlier rather than leaving it till later.
Kino??ive heard it could u just explain a lil??


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Default 15-08-2011, 08:30 PM

Google: Kino escalation

Maybe she is just an attention whore, and when she finally got you back to her place, she was bored of the attention and just wasn't bothered..

Don't let this "setback" hold you back.. its a learning experience, laugh about it

Stop taking it seriously.. If she plays on her phone (which I admit, is fucking annoying) don't let it piss you off, or don't show it..

Stop trying so hard to be alpha, just be cool
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Default 15-08-2011, 09:07 PM

Al_phaD - you should be an agony uncle

Lovefish - you need to loosen up by the sounds of things. Just look to enjoy life and their company without trying to be outcome dependent. Focus on making sure they are comfortable and you are both having shitloads of fun. If you are both having fun then just lead it from there. If you're not having fun, there's really no point.


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Default 15-08-2011, 09:27 PM

Thanks for the advice both of you.I did have fun through the day and maybe cos we were back at hers my agenda changed to banging rather than fun hence the failure.Yeh i do think the kino kinda dropped off also this could also of been a factor.I do admit its been a few months since ive had some,so i am finding it a lil hard not to be outcome dependant,i keep thinking if i got some id loosen up and itd be easier to get more.I also need to try and keep it in the moment more i think cos i do keep wandering of in my head.
It did feel like i fell at the last hurdle earlier today.But im not going to beat myself up about it.Id just prefer it not to happen to often thats all.Anyways on to the next one


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Default 15-08-2011, 09:44 PM

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Today i took the hottest chick i got the number of house hunting with me.It was going well all day ioi`s` laughs i think i maintained and alpha ish ness.She was even like i aint had none in 10 weeks im gagging.So im like lets grab some food at yours.Get in get some food hit the bed and BOOM she sits at the bottom of the bed me at the top.Thats it man nufin everything i tried couldnt get her back into the mood man.
Sounds like the mood changed when reaching the bedroom.

From what you are saying it was definitely on, I think she was just waiting for you to make a move. When you were on the bed, you shoulda just cracked a joke like 'how's the weather down there' then just moved in on her.

That window of opportunity is so small, once it's gone it's gone (hence the texting of another guy).

I think we've all been there man, all you can do is learn from the mistakes and escalate next time. It's even more difficult when you haven't been laid for a while....just focus on the process instead of the outcome.


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Default 15-08-2011, 10:15 PM

At least your getting numbers and stuff. That's cool!

It sounds like your not being sexual enough with them. When that girl was in your room you should have started pulling her, picked her up and put her on the bed. Don't just sit on the bed. She had already told you she wanted sex essentially. You both knew why you were there.

However, don't be too hard on yourself, just try again with new girls. Stuff like this can make you feel a bit demasculinated, but is no biggie. The moment is goes right (which it will) you will be back on track.
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Default 15-08-2011, 10:17 PM

In future.. don't just sit on the bed, do what Snake Eyes says.. put her on the bed, kiss her dominantly.. rip her clothes off, animal style, she will be gagging for it, women love it
then when your fucking her and smacking her ass, think to yourself how amazing the moment is, and how awesome you are..

sometimes we forget how masculine we are with all this metrosexual bollox
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Default 15-08-2011, 10:20 PM

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sometimes we forget how masculine we are with all this metrosexual bollox
Aww Al_phaD, I always enjoy a good sob after I've cum


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