I wouldn't use the line "do I smell or sumat" personally.. I can't explain why.. it just doesn't sound enticing or playful really.. I guess you don't need to say anything.. just grab her and start kissing her, if she pushes you away, then she's a freak for taking you back to her bedroom and not even doing anything.. Just assume its on, don't let any doubt cloud your mind.. if you're in her bedroom.. its on!

I don't use any other PUAForums, and can't remember seeing much on this one about it, but after a quick google search, read these two pages:
Kino Escalation – Early, Mid Set Kino and Kiss Closing
Kino Escalation Model

I can kinda see your viewpoint on this, you'd had a nice day, you go back to hers, you're new to being single, and assume she's guna start cuddlin up and kissin and shit.. some girls just aren't very forward and you have to lead it..

Some girls, especially the slutty ones, would be all over you in the doorway and like to take control

Cheers for the links Alpha ill check em out when i get a free moment and try to impliment them in my game.Yeh i should have just assumed it was on no doubts.If i get blown off then like u say shes a freak or sumat.
Maybe ill try the weather comment or something more playful that "do i smell" comment should a similar situation arise again.
I think if i could have done it again i would have more belief in my faculties and not assumed cos id got this far she would just roll up and pounce on me! I should have pounced on her with no fears.
Like you say im just out of a relationship and new to being single so there probs also a bit of naivety there also.

Lol I didn't mean explicitely that every time you get blown off, she is a freak.. but if she has brought you back to her bedroom, and nothing happens, I think she's a bit weird..

The main thing is you don't let it get to you and keep going, read the first post of this thread, and read your first thread when you were still in a relationship and see your progress!

I found this mystery video series.Its really shed some light on where i went wrong and some of what id missed on monday
Kino Escalation-part-01.mp4 - YouTube

Ok i thought i might as well continue on this thread as it feels like it a continuation of the subject.Ive been hanging with a girl on and off for like 10years now.I know shes into me.I Know shes always wanted to hook up (4 years ago i got in her bra but she got lmr as i tried to get further and i didnt know how to deal with it gah).Everytime we both end up single we hang out and everytime i blow it:S
So she msgd me on facebook 2 nyte,i told her i was recently single and had a new pad she was like oh we should christen the rooms!
The whole conversation played along with the same playfulness
So shes coming over the weekend after the bank holiday one (a few weeks yet,i told her i was mega busy,which i am!).
Any suggestions for not blowing it this time.
Weve played this game on and off for so many years and i know shes gagging and tbh probably gutted that she keeps trying and I keep getting overly outcome dependant which in return means she has to blow me out.

Lovefish, the guys have said it all..

I am glad that you are taking positive steps in working on your sticking points to improve your game and be a better man/leader in life. Cos, let's face it this is down to leadership skills one way or the other. I saw the youtube post and I will be 'spying' it..


Adios!

Yeh i guess it is down to leadership.I just thought there may be some further advice to help me thats all.Im still looking for that elusive key that im missing, i know there will be a point in the future when boom the penny finally drops and im able to close like a mutha4ka.Well the way i see it is she can come round ill cook and ill forget about the outcome and just have some fun,maybe ill get some maybe i wont,either way it will be one step closer to regular closing and another lesson to learn.