Pretty uneventful night

Well I went out with a girl I met a few weeks ago at a club, We went to a bar to start. Where we got chatting and had a few laughs, after about an hour and a half I make a move and put my hand on her leg, she dosent move it away.

So we go to another bar down the street and we are both still having a good time. I put my arm around her when we are sitting down and hold her hand. At this point I tried to go for a k close saying "Im just wondering if your a good kisser", she says "No im not very good", me "Only one way to see" then I go in for the kiss, but she pulls away and says sorry, I say "hey dont worry about it"

we go on with the night, having a good laugh. I bought a round (I never recieved one in return!)
After a few more drinks we go catch a late film at the cinema, The expendables (she likes action flicks). We watch the film, my hand on her leg alot of the way through and hand holding blah blah.
I didnt make a move in the cinema because it wasnt appropriate, when the film finished I tried again outside, again nothing. So I put her in a taxi so she can get home. I got a peck on the lips and she said she wanted to do it again and that she had a good time, I asked when and she said she didnt know whe she was free. I didnt know either so I told her I would text her when I find out

So anyway a nice girl, But i think I tried to escalate a bit quick, I had a good time. Im going to wait a few days before contacting her again, see if she gets in touch with me first

Well body language was positive when i went for it again, it was while I was giving her a hug. But dosent matter anyway, plenty more girls in my phone book, but I will give her a text tomorrow

Well I wanted to get her in the sack, the kiss was just another step towards that. This is the only time its failed to happen haha

it sounds to me like your going to get friend zoned... I dunno I personally wouldn't go on a day 2 unless I k-closed on the day one... unless she was being very playful when rejecting you. which is hard to get and something totally different. but I think you would recognise that because the whole point in it would be for you to recognise it...

don't worry about escalating too fast. if anything it sounds too slow... and don't be thinking about everything so much... I know its easy enough said but just let things go don't try and control the situation... there is nothing worse than an awkward hand on the leg or arm around someone... if it felt right just do it... don't think about it as an escalation or anything... just chill out about it...

db xx

I was reading this, and I thought it didn't sound like a good thing myself. However you cannot universally apply every rule to every girl, she may have other stuff going on.

Generally speaking db is right no kclose on the first night and I would next the girl, however I know of a PUA who never kisses a girl on the first date and he is an absolute legend, maybe the difference is that he never tries to kiss them on the first date, which dials up the tension.

LJBF is a worry for you here mate, instead of nexting (if that what you intend to do) why not reverse roles and LJBF her?

What is there to lose?

I might just do that, I think I will give her a call and give her the whole "your a really nice girl but I think we should just be friends" will prob drive her mental haha

From what you described you were a cash flow for her on the night. i hope you didnt pay her into the cinema or it backs my theory.

Best dates i ever had were the ones at the same place i just met them.

example one is a girl who came over to me as i played pool asking if id teach her. She paid for the table and the drinks all night. We had a dance together and even kiss closed and number exchanged for future meet. That meet never happened as it turned out she had a boyfriend but what a one night date to have.

Like this Lol

To be fair tho mate... ive had a girl ive tried to kiss early, been swerved then later she been at me like a fly on shit

also.. some girls dont like kissing in public (CLUB NECKIN IS HORRID) also some just dont like kissing full stop, its a comfort thing...

my mate had a bird the other day cuddlin him all night, wouldnt kiss...

dont look too deep into it, just be a cool cat... say... im stuck, i usually only take girls on a second date if they are good kissers.... ill be honest ur not that good.. when she asks how u know say.. u told me challenge set

women r just weird mate... no amount of PUA can prepare u