By Luth do you mean my mate Luther from here who was up in Manc? He's good and you can learn from him.

Let's not jump on the band wagon yet. Few more posts, maybe something's clicked.

It wasn;t that you were incorrect. He comes back to the same reactions he probably left because of.

As I said, leave it for a bit.

Kowalski, it was empathy. This is a public forum, do as you want. Damn man chill the fuck out.

I'm not going to jump on any bandwagon. But he just said he approached 27 women in 1 day - does that sound like anything has changed?He hasn't read anyones advice & is in super appropach mode. This sounds like denial.

I agree with Kowalski and don't believe for a minute you haven't read them. On the slim chance you haven't actually read them, I'd encourage to go and read the last 2 pages of this thread - you could find it really helpful.

If this is the method you are going to carry on using, perhaps you should forget about PUA and give up on getting laid/getting a girlfriend - either your completely hopeless at this or something else is afoot and its probably the latter thats causing the former.

You must have approached 150ish women by now and I think you've got 2 dates & 1 make out. Does that sound successful? Do you think if you approach another 150 maybe you'll lay one of them, does this sound normal to you?

I'm genuinly trying to help, from your posts your obviously a pretty intelligent guy, perhaps too intelligent. Please have a think about all this.

Guys, Serendipity won't listen to your drastic advise, the best thing you can do is help him with what he's got. You cannot change his mind on his approach, if you want to help him just make it the best it can be.

To be honest I really don't understand why me saying to leave him alone for a while is a dictatorship. Either You're playing with me or you're on your period.

I expect a five paragraph thesis on why I'm a dictator by the time I'm back from work...was that dictator enough?

Yeah, your right. I'll probably just stop commenting in this thread altogether or at least try to now.

The intention was not to instruct.

It was to say, hey maybe attacking him isn't the best way to help him. He probably left due to this and although he really isn't helping himself. I don't want him to run off again.

But I'm probably enforcing my idea of caring onto you.

Hail top-hat

There's been some reactions and I'm glad for that. I'd like to bury the hatchet to be honest and post for the benefit of people who might identify with my journey in some way; whether they be regular posters or lurkers on this forum.

I started from zero. Now I'm living in central London trying to meet women, date, have relationships with and get laid with women. That's always been my goal since I joined the forum. If you read back you'll see that. To start with I had basically no confidence.

I realised quite quickly this process isn't going to be easy and it's going to take some dedication and commitment. Tbh it's been very painful at times. once you get into pickup all your inner issues start to come bubbling up to the surface.

But if you want something enough, whether it be something as trivial as validation from women, you'll pull out all the stops to achieve it. Even if it means laying your ego on the line.

My message is that there's no easy way. At some point you have to face your problems and that's what I'm doing now. I'll keep you posted on my progress.