nice one.

I've had two appointments at the dentist cancelled on me. The receptionist is getting more and more apologetic on the phone. She has one of those sexy phone voices. The last time she phoned I got her laughing about something and we both forgot what we were on the phone for.

In person she's a bit sullen. She said she lives with her mum and sounds like she doesn't have much fun. She's not great looking but is definitely fuckable. Sometimes they are the best ones.

Maybe I should turn on the chat next time I'm down there (in two weeks hopefully).

I need to start taking some chances.

I'm shit at this bit, maybe you could advise. How about next time I'm there after some chat I say "well you've got my number , give me yours" while holding my phone ready. What do you think?

I don't want to be thinking about the future, both past and future can be damaging to think about. I'm limiting my thinking very well. I now don't make snap, harsh decisions and judgments and I regularly used to get into a war of words because of something I thought might happen, now I make a judgement based on the information in front of me and this then, in most cases, stops confrontation even if it ends badly for either party involved. I've stop being concerned with each and every outcome.



True, I don't need to check if the other stuff if bollocks, I know their reasons behind it are bollocks, I think I wanted to find out what motivation they had to do it. It's unnecessary.

Well I'll be damned. A booty call girl not just wanting sex, a plain old good fucking, ohh no, she wants the most creative, adventurous sex I've ever had. Hell, I haven't even seen on a porno some of the shit she's coming out with.

I'm into using ice cubes sometimes and among other things I love the girls that just have like a spontaneous want for sex. sleep.. wake up.. sex. I love when a girl uses her muscles when she's entered, the muscle she uses to piss with; it feels like she's massaging you.


She's invited me round her flat for a few days. She really wants to experience the ice cube play and 2 days of pure experimenting.

Naturally she's more experienced, she's 27 I'm 21 but damn she is wild.

Whilst day gaming I've recently found out that I have a problem when it comes to interacting with stubborn and sarcastic girls. I can talk to them, open fine but struggle to build any rapport.

I don't percieve them on initial value to be any different from any other girl. I'm not thinking whilst having conversation so I have no negative thoughs. But the conversation slowly dwindles down and we go our seperate ways.


I've tried a few different things to break the mold but I'm not seeing better results. Possibly due to me thinking how to improve before the interaction.

I think that if I first approach with more energy, go direct a bit faster. I tend to open neutral and then take the conversation slowly more direct and I like the push-pull frame. Maybe that is my mistake with the strong frame women, I need to be quicker going direct.


Any thoughts?

I definitely agree with you, although I'm not experienced with day game, more of a night guy myself, but more energy might help!

Also have tried to be sarcastic back, not in any sort of rude way, smile on your face alittle sarcasm back, shows you can handle a joke, and you like a laugh? Then switch after alittle to direct?

i tell them to fucking lighten up and stop being a cunt < in those words.

somethimes they realise and sometimes they dont.

You can also try being a stubborn sarcastic cunt back to her and see how she likes it

If theyre sarcastic just be sarcastic back, cocky funny shit though create some sorta banter, bitches love drama and if you're a rude back they'll eat it right up

I love girls being sarcastic, if it's in the way I'm thinking. It gives you more to go off and sets a more playful tone for the rest of the conversation. I generally a lot more into a girl if she's got the balls to throw some attitude my way now and then. The thing is I'm not sure precisely what you mean by this, a girl can be sarcastic in different ways and for different reason. Have you got a specific example?