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28-03-2013, 11:22 AM
I'd probably say leave it till tomorrow at least (you are busy after all), then maybe hint about getting a hotel room in Russia depending on how serious you are about her
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28-03-2013, 11:50 AM
Hmmm see this is where I've probably fell down before. She's going to her docs appointment today, she's told me the time of it and everything.
So I'd always feel inclined to reply to her before she goes to her docs appointment.
I understand why you'd say to leave it until tomorrow but considering the appointment is today I thought I should message her affter lunch?
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28-03-2013, 11:58 AM
Step back and think about how you treat the messaging with regards to this girl. Then, think about how you deal with friends. Is that 4 minutes you wait for the reply then as relevant? Would you disturb your concentration on something important? Also think about why you feel inclined, particularly as you have not met this this girl.
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28-03-2013, 12:13 PM
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I'm searching Mystery Method for some answers along with other books but it's hard to understand what to do simply because she's a 10, I've never really targeted a 10 as 'practice' before so I'd like to see it through from start to finish, no-matter the outcome...
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The Mystery Method is an OK introduction but old news. One of the guys who wrote it, Owen Cook aka Tyler Durden (yeh i think he's god, so shoot me) has released tons of useful material online since, which you can implement now. Things have become alot simpler since the Mystery Method. For example, if you go up a pretty, have a normal conversation with her and not freak out, there is a good chance she will get attracted to you! Freaky shit eh?
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28-03-2013, 05:07 PM
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Your comment made me think about this in a whole new light. The 4 minutes wasn't really meant to be relevant as such, it was just meant to show that I'm not waiting hours of a reply. I see what you mean and I understand why I didn't think like that in the first place.
I've grown up with a family that has a "help others" mentality, so your approach of the situation is something similar to what I've been doing in quite a lot of cases but I also have bouts of "help others" mentality. I feel inclined because she's obviously in distress and that's going back to the "help others" mentality. Most of the time I'm quite the funny, talkative, ambitious kinda guy who doesn't really give 2 shit's about what anyone thinks. I'm also kinda judgemental; if I don't want to carry on the conversation with someone I'll know within the first 2 minutes.
Sapmi
I'm beginning to realise that all the books I've read are severely out of date when it comes to the approach the guys in the community have. Some of the contrast of differences totally confused me. It's almost gone back to old school; all about the experience. I'm also looking at Tyler's stuff but if I'm honest I haven't really had enough time to study his work's in depth.
Is there a newer, more up-to-date book that could be recommended?
***UPDATE***
So I decided that I wouldn't message her, kinda bold of me really because like 80% of me is saying to message her. I actually feel a bit of a dick about it; I am busy but I'm free tonight. Arrhh no biggy! I'm actually kinda interested to see if I'm right with the diagnosis, since it's pretty damn embarrassing for her.
She is always posting on Facebook but today; no posts. I've just looked at the email of her message and she says that she doesn't think she can go on her class trip and now her arms are fucked as well.
To me it doesn't feel like a waste of time, I just take it as learning. At the end of the day we aren't friends if we haven't met, were kinda like acquaintances.
1 thing: I'm considering replying to her tonight, I'm not really sure what you guys think about that... I didn't talk to her the whole of yesterday as almost a punishment for ignoring my message (maybe not the right thing to do but hey, no harm in a free day huh?) I'd be making her wait about 10ish hours for a reply.
My question: If a girl is controlling the conversation or attempting to control the conversation, would you just ignore her for a day or so (as D!ce suggested)? Why?
Thanks guys! May seem a bit obvious to you's but it's all learning for me..
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28-03-2013, 05:23 PM
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I feel inclined because she's obviously in distress and that's going back to the "help others" mentality
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Would you still show as much interest if she was a fat hairy guy who you worked with?
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28-03-2013, 05:29 PM
It's just how I've spent so many years been like that.
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28-03-2013, 05:58 PM
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I'm beginning to realise that all the books I've read are severely out of date when it comes to the approach the guys in the community have. Some of the contrast of differences totally confused me. It's almost gone back to old school; all about the experience. I'm also looking at Tyler's stuff but if I'm honest I haven't really had enough time to study his work's in depth.
Is there a newer, more up-to-date book that could be recommended?
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Watch the videos on youtube, and go out. Just be accustomed to talking to women. Don't put pressure on yourself. These videos are best to watch, only if you're actually going out and hitting on women. Forget everything you've read, especially when you go out and talk to them! Thats it. Believe me things will fall into place for you. If you cannot talk to strange women, then practice saying "hello" and smiling! May not happen over night, but as long as you're talking to them, you will see good things Good luck man, you deserve it!
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28-03-2013, 06:56 PM
I'm definitely going out more often and I've got into the habbit of saying "hello" to pretty much every passer-by, sometimes striking up random conversation and I hold it easily and well.
I have pressured myself massively, to succeed, maybe too much. In recent outings it has become much easier to just go up to someone and strike a conversation, piss easy on nights out - but then again, I'm not going for the 9/10's on nights out, 8's are fine and many are begging for the attention the 9/10's are receiving so if you don't want her as a girlfriend or wife or whatever, then why not approach?
Funnily enough every-time I go out I forget absolutely everything I've read, I think "ohh my fucking god" for about a few minutes and then I'm fine, first approach is key every night. I sometimes go out with friends as well but I like pub area's with friends, do't really trust much of them with how they handle their drink!
I'm going to University in Romania soon which is going to be fucking awesome! I have many countries with some of the best girls in the world very close to me, what's not to like
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28-03-2013, 07:09 PM
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I'm definitely going out more often and I've got into the habbit of saying "hello" to pretty much every passer-by, sometimes striking up random conversation and I hold it easily and well.
I have pressured myself massively, to succeed, maybe too much. In recent outings it has become much easier to just go up to someone and strike a conversation, piss easy on nights out - but then again, I'm not going for the 9/10's on nights out, 8's are fine and many are begging for the attention the 9/10's are receiving so if you don't want her as a girlfriend or wife or whatever, then why not approach?
Funnily enough every-time I go out I forget absolutely everything I've read, I think "ohh my fucking god" for about a few minutes and then I'm fine, first approach is key every night. I sometimes go out with friends as well but I like pub area's with friends, do't really trust much of them with how they handle their drink!
I'm going to University in Romania soon which is going to be fucking awesome! I have many countries with some of the best girls in the world very close to me, what's not to like
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Someone fucking blindingly attractive to you is rarer than an average pretty girl. So you may feel more nervous. Not much you can do about that. You can think in a more efficient way by knowing that, you are enough, or "there is no reason why i'm not enough". Words and labels in your head can fuck you up.
If you think "OMFG ITS A 10, SHIT HOLY CRAP, WHAT DO I SAY, FUCK ME, OH MY GOD", thats not really gonna help. She's just a girl. You've never met her before. Is she really worthy of your time? Anyway, try being present and in the moment in social situations rather than in your head thinking how much of a 10 she is. Look up Ekharte Tolle. He talks about being present. Again, youtube is an amazing resource.
That all said, this will not cure you over night. Just go out and talk to them. If you feel nervous, fine. If you feel uncomfortable, FINE. It's these feeling that will make you grow.
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