First real post guys so please go easy...Im new here. No grand interpretation of social dynamics or the inner workings of the female brain here, just some decent advice thats helped me time and tme again...

Right off the bat let me start by saying I couldnt give two shits as to who's out singing who on Britains Got the Voice Factor, nor do I particular care for the trails and tribulations facing the residents of Essex, Chelsea ET All on whatever reality show is currently doing the rounds on terrestrial. What I do care about is how these things and other such pieces of trivial garbage can help me in creating rapport with people I've never met before but want to establish a line of good communication with. Admittedly this isn't a fool proof strategy that will work universally with everyone (That cute PHD student you've had your eye, this isn't meant for her...but then again who knows!), but lets be honest, over 80% of the UKs population, and more specifically the females of the species, are obsessed with gossip and Saturday night TV viewing and its here that our friends at the Daily Mail come in.

Every few days I spend a total of around 5 minutes looking at the Mail's websites top trashy news stories, not because I'm particularly interested in them (Im not I assure of that) but because within there 'barely passes for journalism' pages is the perfect mixture of bubblegum light rapport building bull-turd, guaranteed to help you along the way, if/when conversations becomes stilted and/or you find yourself trying to establish a good line of dialogue. Ive chatted to thousands of women, and even the most dim have an opinion on who they like/dont like on this years Pop Factor Voice Talent and whats more once you get them talking about it/them/whatever chances are they'll find it hard to stop. Let them talk, smile, pretend that you know who Joey Essex is, and then reap the rewards when she comes away thinking what a funny and interesting guy you are. Its a neat trick and one easily implemented into your routine, hell, a lot of you probably already do it without realising how it might assist you come weekend.

That's all folks. Sorry if it sucks

Peace

Yes, I fucking hate reality TV with a passion. But your right - loads of women I know are totaly into it.

I believe that you need none of that.

Sounds like you've just intellectually masturbated yourself into a fairly canned opener there.

Sorry dude but I would never compromise my own integrity and succumb to reading something like that just on the off chance some chick will talk to me about which Z list celebrities are fucking each other.

Where did you get 80% from? Did you make that up?

If it works for you that's fine but it could come across as trying too hard to fit in. I believe whatever you say to women has value simply because it comes from you. It's more about the energy behind it than what you say.

I totally get where you're all coming from, I do, but I dont think its a question of compromising your own personal integrity. Id be much happier discussing the finer points of Godard vs Truffaut but I know myself well enough not to do so to everyone I meet, and more importantly dont take myself serious enough to think that I'm compromising my integrity by trying to find common ground with someone, who's interests might be the complete polar opposite of my own. The very nature of the beast means your invariably at some point in your life going to be thrust into a situation in which you need sure footing; a common ground. This transcends game and can manifest itself in the workplace or even at, hell, I dont know, say a family gathering. For example; On the surface my cousin seems like a vapid self obsessed teenager but by expressing even the most casual of interests in something she is interested in, we can bond. Its pretty simple. For the record, I used to eschew the cult of 'celebrity-ism' so celebrated in the pages of Heat and the like, its voyeurism at its worst, but I unfortunately recognised a long time ago that it was something that the females seem to revel in, indeed they're the target audience, there is literally a sub genre of magazines that have been created just to fulfil their need for it, so it only seems logical to verse yourself in it, and like I said, I'm talking the smallest of amounts here.

Theres no need to be sorry for having a difference in opinion dude, we good. Its about whatever works, whatever works for you and more importantly whatever you feel comfortable using. Im not pretending to be the god of seduction and that my way is gospel, I sometimes strike out with the best of them. As I wrote in the former, its a neat trick, but by no means a strategy. Its not exactly opener material but a little further down the line it can be useful. Ultimately, you may not need it, but someone else (even just one single guy) might, its horses for courses, no one universal rule and all that.

And yeah, of course I made the 80% up, If I'd had the actual figures handy Id have of course used them, Ill shoot less fast and loose next time I'm throwing stats around.

Faust Out

I usually flick through the pages of some of these red-top and glossy rags while I'm waiting my turn in the barbers. As you said five minutes browsing is enough to know what the main celeb headlines are. At least then you don't seem completely out of touch if a woman brings that guff up in a convo.

I think the idea that the best or only way to relate to people is to find out about reality TV shows that you have no real interest in is a bit cynical and uncreative. People are people dude, there's a million different ways you can relate to them other than this surface level crap.

Also I agree that doing that kind of thing is compromising your integrity. The reason for this is because you're going out of your way to act in a way you normally wouldn't in order to please other people. You're dancing to other people's tune instead of being grounded in your own reality. If it comes up so often (and I don't personally think it does) you can still have a conversation about it, but there's absolutely no reason to act like you like it when you don't. What's wrong with a conversation going like this:

Girl: 'omg, did you watch X factor last night?'

You: 'Ha! No. You watch that shit? Why?

Personally I'd much rather do that than be like 'arrr yeah, that was great when they had the montage about his nan who died of syphilis'. It's more real, more alpha and more attractive.

And why the fuck not talk about something that interests you? This whole idea is 'I've got to impress girls and relate to them on their level' type thinking. If you want to interact well with people and be attractive you've got to be real, stick to your guns and let her impress you not the other way around.

Try this: Talk about what you are interested in and let THEM try to understand your world. Even better, you could use not knowing what they're on about to continue the conversation "I've never heard of that whats it about?". More importantly I believe that superficial shit like that has nothing to do with attraction and pulling. Girls won't jump bones because you watch Corrie.

So if 'having a good conversation' is the only aim you have for this article I say screen girls who you CAN have a conversation with about what YOU like.

It would be better to just do that. Even the dimmest girls will be like "hey what's that about?" if they like you. You van then tease her about not knowing what it is. Then you've got her trying to raise her game to impress you. That's what you want, not lowering to her level. That's basically what we're getting at.