Your right on that point,i do need to learn to love myself.I need to get out of this habit of putting myself down,its something ive always done and is in no way helpful nor constructive.Any suggestions how/where to start undoing this destructive habit??
Nah man no way not going back there trust!!were just mates thats all,in fact we get on way better as m8s that in that screwed up relationship!! its like the pressures off now

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There we go knave, copy and paste mate! Just to satisfy mine and Al_phaD's OCD

Each to their own, some people stay friends with exs, just never seems to work for me, just gives me heartache

Think about WHY you feel the way you do. Question your negative beliefs about yourself. They aren't true anyway. Also, nobody is perfect. So what does it matter if you have your downsides? Material things like clothes and haircut and body you can improve anyways.

Join the gym, or at least start doing some exercise. Buy some dumbbells. Start growing some muscles this always makes me feel amazing about myself when I'm feeling pumped with muscles to show for it. Plus women fucking love it.

Stop thinking and dwelling on how much you hate yourself, and start to think about, how
A. you left your ex girlfriend for bigger and better things,
B. you got yourself a new flat,
C. you started going out in PUBS AND CLUBS that you absolutely hate
D. you started meeting new women
E. you had a few dates and are learning from any mistakes you may have made
F. you been out sarging with guys from this site

All good stuff, no need to dislike yourself at all.

Your right Alpha there is a good few things there to have a positive point of view on.
Like i said im setting myself weekly challenges now,im going to try the positivity challenge (dont dwell on negative thoughts,view everyone in a positive light and dont care what people think about you) plus using your suggestions as a mental booster.Ill see if that makes any difference to the way im thinking and hopefully ill make some progress

Have you read 'The rules of the game' Neil Strauss, I would'nt normally recommend this book but the 30 day challenge is excellent.

Each day you take a baby step building on the experience of the previous its a fundamentally sound way to progress because it incorporates many psychological methods that work.

That's half the book the rest teaches stupid things like 'the cube' and telling you what a great guy Neil is with women, I'd stop reading after the 30 day challenge.

Did I use it myself? No, but I followed a similar path I self taught myself that almost duplicates the set of challenges, so yes it does work.

I didn't thank that cos I particularly agree with you K, but that post made me chuckle.

Slightly off topic but going back to your date, taking girls shopping is an awesome first date if you do it well.

Shops have a million and one pieces of inspiration for you to tease, be humorous, show value, Kino and have fun and it's free. You can be impulsive by picking random shops to pop into and creating roleplays ect and you venue change regularly. As long as you lead it with confidence, in terms of a date it enables you structure all the shit you learn in PU around an easy format, without having to think to much about it, as to come across natural.

Some really simple examples of thing that I found worked quite well:
- Pick out the most ridiculously horrific piece of clothing and be adament it's amazing on either you her for as long as possible.
- pick out something that suits you and when she says it does, tell her she can buy you it as present.
- when walking through a shopping mall/street, grab her hand and sharply turn saying lets go in here.
- discuss good films we both like in foreign film section of Fopp (if she's that kinda girl).
- pop into STA or any travel agents and plan an around the world trip together like a couple would.
- go into a bookies and make a bet together of the jockey wearing pink and call her your lucky charm.

the possibilities are endless.....

This is my standard Day 2, unless I know them a bit already, have put the legwork already and can invite them directly to my house.

Don't ever feel you have to justify your actions to anyone.

Otherwise a good post some fun ideas

it was hilarious

To add to this I love the "Hat Challenge" where you both have to pick out a hat that suits eachother. You both get a price limit of like £10 and cou can go to fashion shops, cheap shops or even charity shops, I even got 1 date to try on a lampshade because she said she liked chinese culture!

Yeh ive got that book not tried it yet,its mixed in with a load of other pua books ive bought but not had a chance to read yet.Its something im definately willing to give a go.Even if its not ALL THAT,if it turns out to be a useful spring board or can help get me up a step then its done its job.I know this book will never make me a pua by itself tho.
Yeh 100% agreed on all the comments to do with shopping,hence choosing it.I kinda already had a few plans/routines thought up and i knew my exs all loved shopping and giving opinions (plus if one woman likes something on you others usually do 2,most have good taste) so it was always gona be a winner.Plus i needed some new clothes whatever which i bought a few bits even tho i got flaked