Lol, I haven't read The Game in about 3 years now.. can't even remember most of it, I have it on my bedside table to read but I haven't been assed yet..

It doesn't have to be deceiving, you genuinely don't want anything serious, like I said in my last post, not your fault when she gets attached.. maybe if she is uber hot with a good personality you will get attached too..

All women don't necessarily want you more when you say things like that.
Actually, I've heard stories where some people said the next morning, ring me if you want to have sex again and the women never rang the bloke cos obviously he was being a twat. But that kind of attitude is just wrong and misleading...it doesn't make all women want you more.
How or why would you bring up the "I don't want anything serious" conversation until you had already slept with them?

Well obviously it depends on the situation.. if you just want a one night stand, then you don't have to say anything to her really (regarding what you want from relationships)

But many men want fuck buddys, and talk about women not being okay with the situation or the man "misleading them", when it isn't misleading if you are honest from day one about your intentions

Going for a ONS is misleading if the woman thought you might be worth something, especially if you walk out the next morning and say "how about you ring me if you want some more action".

Thats the craziest thing I have ever heard.

If the female (who is an adult, and can make her own informed decisions) is unsure, or confused, or possibly misled on the contractual basis of having sex on that particular night, I didn't realise we are to put it in writing that this is only a one nighter and she should not get her hopes up..

But that's exactly my point, by wanting a one nighter or nothing serious you are intentionally misleading the girl. Any decent girl worth seeing doesn't want a ONS or a fuck buddy relationship. The only girls who want that are a bit on the loose side.

So if a girl wants a ONS or fuck buddy, she is not decent, and is on the loose side.

But for men who come on a PUA Forum, many in the search for more lays (admittedly, not all), it is perfectly acceptable?

Women have needs as well. If a girl is single, does this mean she is not entitled to sex unless she marries the guy?

How is being in an honest, open, fuck buddy relationship misleading the girl? When you explicitely tell her that you do not want marriage or a relationship right now, and she is fine with it and still wants to have sex with you (yes it happens), this is NOT MISLEADING

There is nothing productive in having a fuck buddy, it's just a waste of time even if you are getting some action along the way...no emotional connection nada.

People come on here searching for more lays but in the process, don't you think there is a hint of misleading in the process? Many women date in order to find someone decent and if all you're looking for is a ONS then that's misleading the girl for the gratification of your own ego. I agree with you that if you explicitly say then it's not misleading (aside from the fact that PUAs know that saying that makes them want you more 9 times out of 10) but when do 2 parties actual say this to each other during the attraction phase? Normally this is something you might discuss after and if you say you don't want anything serious then it often leads to a break up of that connection.

A virgin wants a fuck buddy relationship? Unlikely unless she just wanted to tick the box (so to speak).

gene pool, ur talkin shit. im fucking loads of girls who tell all guys they wanna wait, not me tho... im fuckin them

i just know what to say. ur talkin from a perspective of a guy who thinks he knows women.

u havent seen the true side of them... i have close friends who are girls... once u fuck them they bare all!!!

women are as bad as men... just better at hiding it