Shes not that into me.....

[Refl3x]

ok the scenario is

Im either chatting to a girl i am interested in or i am actually on Date 1 with her.

We Chat, i establish what she is into, so i start landing hook questions about what she likes.

Pretty soon i am getting the impression she isnt that interested, -- even questions i think will hook her about her interests arent creating much of a response-- i just dont seem to be hitting that EMOTIONAL connection and i dont have definate higher Value than her

So looking forward i see this interaction/date is going to have us going our seperate ways.

Im throwing this out there to you guys for suggestions to flip reverse this situation as ive had this loads of times, im sure all of you have had this and you proably Eject from the set.


Suggestions --

1)turn round and chat to other girls/guys in the vicinity or get a drink and chat to them in view of her--show her you are a fun guy able to fearlessly approach anyone.


2)Tell her she is boring you, and she can do some of the chatting?????

3)Tell her ' You are a cute girl and its a pity you dont have much to say--so im off' and get up and leave her standing on her own -terminate the interaction

guys help??????

[Y45]

just out of interest; how much Kino is being done in these interactions?

hmmm..

4) text a girl friend telling her to call you, and start having a deep conversation with her, and slip in that the girl you're with doesn't chat much.

5) Tell her directly on the spot, lets go back to mine and fuck like animals, even if she declines, it would put sex in her head..

6) If you do eject from the situation, do it on a high- for example, "I have to leave, I have to perform heart surgery on a family member.

7) Move to a new location with her, like take her ice skating or something.

Just a couple ideas I had

[Refl3x]

Originally Posted by Y45

just out of interest; how much Kino is being done in these interactions?

Some occasions loads (all from me) some occasions not a lot

[Knave]

Originally Posted by Refl3x

Suggestions --

1)turn round and chat to other girls/guys in the vicinity or get a drink and chat to them in view of her--show her you are a fun guy able to fearlessly approach anyone.

Possible, why not stay in the game and turn the sillyness up to break the shyness/lack of interest. Sometimes it can really work just to get her to giggle, without being the performing monkey. I got a 40 minute conversation off a shy girl with 'Fuck, marry, Kill' *** other silly games and HV stunts can work.

Originally Posted by Refl3x

2)Tell her she is boring you, and she can do some of the chatting?????

Harsh, very harsh, why don't you just tell her she has a fat arse as well, will achieve same results. The fact is she is NOT boring, its your fault, a shy girl or a girl showing no interest just requires more effort hooking and opening, if she's not talking or there is silence, its because you've not invoked that.

Originally Posted by Refl3x

3)Tell her ' You are a cute girl and its a pity you dont have much to say--so im off' and get up and leave her standing on her own -terminate the interaction

Again, its a little harsh and steps over the line of negging but if you don't think its working turn around there is another group of girls and look over near the door two more cute girls, now look to your left that blonde haired, etc, etc


***Fuck, Marry, Kill

Ask a girl to pick three people in the bar she would either fuck, marry, or kill.

Three different people and obviously its childish and doesn't work on every girl, but you'll be surprised how many girls get into it. Really looking for qualities, its custom made for long silences and is great for hooks. Nah why would you want to marry him he's ugly. One girl said she would kill me first, I knew I was in

[Rebus]

I think one POV is that you can't win them all.

The question can be: is it me or her?

Is it her? In terms of her behaviour, from time to time you WILL come across boring birds. Ones who don't seem to inject occasional passion or fun into what they say. If u have been awesome in your interactions with her, then disqualify her: move on.

Is it me? Experienced PUAs, of which I consider the OP one, can reflect that they gave it their best shot, it wasn't a match between you and her, and come out of it with their head held high.

[Refl3x]

Originally Posted by Knave

***Fuck, Marry, Kill

Ask a girl to pick three people in the bar she would either fuck, marry, or kill.

I like this game as an example of sillyness and i agree it wont work on everyone

examples

Last night i met an italian woman-- boring as fuck, proper uphill struggle had a phd in some shit number crunching research job
this game wouldnt ahve worked on her-- i cant think anything would!

Ive been on dates with Doctors fresh out of A&E with people dying on them
dont think the game would work

but yeh its a good game i`ll roll with that for a giggle-- i generally like taking the piss anyhow

any more suggestions?

[Refl3x]

Originally Posted by Rebus

I think one POV is that you can't win them all.

The question can be: is it me or her?

Is it her? In terms of her behaviour, from time to time you WILL come across boring birds. Ones who don't seem to inject occasional passion or fun into what they say. If u have been awesome in your interactions with her, then disqualify her: move on.

Is it me? Experienced PUAs, of which I consider the OP one, can reflect that they gave it their best shot, it wasn't a match between you and her, and come out of it with their head held high.

Totally see where you are comming from and its obviously a combination of both factors me and her

But in the interest of truth and justice a challenge is a challenge and if you ahve got nothing to lose and you quite like the idea of 'trying' to toss that pancake of a boring bitch sunny side up- then its always good to try stuff

[niknak]

I'm no expert, but have you actually built any attraction? She sounds like she isn't really into you (for whatever reason) or is shy.

If she isn't into you physically, and you've tried being fun but you don't have the same sense of humour, you're probably left with the textbook DHV stuff.

But boring girls are hard work so personally I wouldn't bother and move on. Can't win em all.

[Refl3x]

Originally Posted by niknak

have you actually built any attraction?.

what actually is building attraction?

She sounds like she isn't really into you (for whatever reason) or is shy.

She wasnt and i didnt care, but i am interested in the processes- the whys and whatnots

textbook DHV stuff.

DHV
How do you demonstrate DHV without sounding like a game of oneupsmanship or like you are stuck up your own arse.

example....
Mid interaction...
Me:check how brown you are...you living a life of luxury travelling the world?
Her: hehe ive just come back from a week in Tennerife, have you been away?
Me: Just been to Russia this year, fancy somwhere hot now!-- you are the expert on Tans where do you recommend?
Her:benidorm,coz,cyprus,magaluf - where else you been besides Russia
Me: (lists roadtrips across america, canada, safaris - been to loads of amazing palces and done some cool stuff)

atsmophere changes -- she feels alienated like we are from totally different worlds

have i not just empirically demonstrated Higher Value and also hurt the intereaction.???