thats not being negative/depressing according to a common sense view, ur not being more negative/depressing than positive in either interaction. ur saying "no turn it off/its shit in here" (negative/depressing) followed by lets go do the sex-wiggles (positive)

1 negative/depressing comment and 1 positive comment

also neither of those interactions sound like the typical saturday night/daygame pickup...?


Being negative ...

Guy: hi do u come here often (positive)
Girl: yeah i love it here?
Guy: i dont its shit, alot of other better places (negative)
Girl: oh right, so what do u do?
Guy: ohh my jobs shit i fuckin hate my boss, do u know what he got me to do today..... (negative)
Girl: sounds pretty bad
Guy: yea, hey ho (negative/neutral)
Girl: *silence*
Guy: *chodey eject*


Being depressing ...

Guy: hi do u come here often (positive)
Girl: yeah i love it here?
Guy: why, it depresses the shit out of me in here, same music, same faces (depressing)
Girl: oh right, so what do u do?
Guy: not much, dont really wana talk about my job on a night out, it gets me down (depressing)
Girl: ok
Guy: yea (depressing/neutral)
Girl: *silence*
Guy: *chodey eject*


so suck on that k dog!

Its not necessarily about what you say its about the atmosphere you create, the Energy of the intereaction.

Negative Atmosphere

Me: Come here often
Her: Yeah 3 times a week
Me: First time here for me, i like it though lots of nice people
Her: Yeah the worlds an amazing place
Me: Whats a girl like you doing in a place like this?

Positive Atmosphere

Me: Come here often
Her: Yeah 3 times a week
Me: First time here for me, i like it though lots of nice people
Her: Yeah the worlds an amazing place
Me: Whats a girl like you doing in a place like this?


Did you notice both interations where exactly the same?...well done
There were a whole load of subtle undertones that show it to be either a positive or negative interaction -- you cant always see or hear an atmosphere

another one for you

Me: Yo yo yo
Her: Word
Me: OMG did you see that twat over there
Her: LOLz what a fuckin retard, needs to be killed at birth
Me: (kino) Yeeehhaaa

Negative shit, but a positive atsmophere

Just like listening to Jimi Hendrix... you dont listen to Jimmi you feel Jimi

yes, but i am making the point that you can come out with almost any bullshit positive or negative and as long as the atmosphere is horny you are on..

reflex can u suck my dick please ¬

Improv night tomorrow, be there

LMAO!!!! yes bad man!

I meant to reply here a little more comprehensively but don't have the time right now, I'd just like to revive this for the mean time because I think it was heading in a good direction and has potential.

May I suggest a potential amendment to the format here? Perhaps a better option might be not to create a list of things that absolutely HAVE to be done but a list of things that will never have a negative effect.

My addition here? Smile.

wow thats even more ambitious. but more importantly its just totally unworkable as a standard to work with

anything can have a negative effect at any time


so ye, in ur face!!

I disagree, all of the first three so far agreed with in this thread fit the bill.

If smiling at someone has a negative effect I feel that your chances with that person were slim to none regardless of anything you try.

But ok, I'll go by the current metric already agreed here then, but what level of specificity are we talking about here? I could say "be attractive to that person" but that's a little vague.

The problem we have is specificity, different types of people respond positively to certain things and negatively to others, without specifying certain archetypes then there's very little else to add to K's list. However, there are (in my opinion) a few middle ground things that are good to do with anyone, hence my suggestion of things that won't have a negative effect.

I feel like something like this could be structured with K's on top followed by things that won't have negative effects followed by more specific things for various archetypes.

Agree with it, always have done but it's important that one thing is also added. In sales a close is not a close until the paperwork is signed. You can can cross the point of "it's on" but still do something stupid and lose it before getting to the end.