That’s crazy talk, Dan.

We put unknown compounds and known compounds with unknown effects in our bodies on trust all the time. And the learning required to understand what any of them do would take years. Honestly, i doubt any one of us in this conversation could explain even how the most common and essential things we consume interact with the body like air and water. I certainly can’t. I can give you a 1990s GCSE level answer at best.

I don’t know why people are even thinking ahead to a future where they are forced to take a vaccine. That’s not being seriously suggested anywhere. Could it happen? Yes. Are there worse things already happening that we just accept? Yes. And to pair that fear with anger that the herd is willingly taking it, seems contradictory. Unless you are hopeful of a mass uprising, the most likely path to you not being forced to take it is everyone else willingly taking it.


So far it seems not to actually be working. Reproduction rates of covid never went over 1:1.7 for the whole time this has been around. Two thirds of the uk are vaccinated. Cases are rising. The maths didn’t work out there. With 2/3s vaccinated and cases rising the reproduction rate without vaccine would be over 1:3 currently. So double what it ever has been.

Maybe that’s because of novel strains. Whatever. It’s not good enough to take it when the risk is so low and in real terms it has not stopped the spread so far.

That’s where the rubber meets the road for me. I’m quite happy to keep doing whatever my doctor tells me I need to do in relation to anything I feel needs medical intervention. I don’t feel the risk of covid is sufficient to address it with medical intervention. I feel I can fairly successfully avoid getting it and the likelihood of it being problematic if o do is so low that I have no interest in taking it just as I don’t take the flu vaccine either. It’s not that I fear the flu vaccine, it’s that it isn’t for me. It’s for people who 1. Get the flu regularly and / or. 2. Are at elevated risk of death from the flu. I’m not those people.


Peace,

kowalski

Fair enough I don't understand vaccines enough to dismiss it, but equally, I don't know enough to want to get it. Only what the "experts" say and of course the herd trying to shame you into it by looking at you like you're some crazy conspiracy nut. I'm also very stubborn and will outright refuse to have an injection just because most other people are getting it.

Speaking of crazy, yes, my previous post did sound a little crazy with regards to the camp idea. However, look at this and tell me it's not fucked up..

https://youtu.be/Gjd_v0r5d5s

With covid seemingly "here to stay" at least with regards to the continuation of life (social distancing, masks, and all that) who's to say this camp shit won't also be a permanent thing.

But - whether it had been part of a larger agenda or not - the population of the world has now been conditioned to accept drastic measures and sudden, radical change in the name of 'their own good', and will just go along with it no matter the level of deprivation and inconvenience it brings into their lives.

"Masks forever" has already been confirmed along with annual vaccination.

I would not have been bothered if this was something recommended for older people and those who have underlying conditions. But now they are talking about deploying the vaccine in schools. 18 year olds are already lining up for hours as they have had the shit scared out of them.

If the vaccine doesn't seem to do anything against the Indian variant, along with the open door migration policy where any cunt and his dog can fly in from any backwater shit hole. What is the point?

The whole thing stinks.

I think that by October this year the pandemic should be under control and on the way out. As the vaccine provides at least 95 per cent protection from the virus and almost complete protection against dying from it. What the government did wrong was not to shut the country down soon enough in early February 2020 and close our borders! Taiwan did that and only suffered about 340 vivid 19 cases.

The most worrying thing for me is how this "vaccine take-up" has filtered its way right down to teenagers. I have a soon-to-be 10-year-old. Obviously, it's not outside the realm of possibility that it'll be encouraged for parents to give their kids "the jab".

Well it won't be happening to my kid, and his mum is on the same page. Even his gran has stated she'll be homeschooling all the kids (the kids in her life, not all the kids) if it was to get to a point where pressure is on to give our kids "the jab".

There's just so much NOPE with that idea, and I know that no matter people's opinion, I think even most pro-vax parents would be like nah bro, fuck you.

My team leader and one of the finance guys were talking about it yesterday (as absolutely lovely as my team leader is, she's literally a YES girl, so I'm not surpised she couldn't wait to jump through the vaccine hoop the second it become available to her).

They were right in front of me. In fact, practically conversing over my head (because I'd been chatting to the finance guy). She was eagerly and excitedly telling him all about how sick it had made her, with the climax of the experience being where she literally passed out on the second night. Riveting stuff. She asked him the typical sheep question "have you had yours yet?"

He was telling her about his girlfriend getting it, and how he was considering it, but lamely mentioned the blood clots, and that he wasn't sure which vaccine to get. I even believe they were attempting to coax me into giving my views or joining in their conversation, but I sat silent, ignoring the topic until they were finished, so I that could finish my discussion with the finance guy about work-related shit.

I'm literally going to blank the topic at every opportunity. I'm refusing to even discuss it anymore if it's not necessary. Especially if it's people who've had it and are either discussing it among themselves and try to include me or anyone who directly asks me. I'll simply be saying..

"No, I haven't had A covid vaccine"

not

"No, I haven't had MY covid vaccine"

Because asking me if I've had my covid vaccine is so deeply irritating. Like these cunts imply there's one sitting there with my name on it. Sorry sir, I'm not a fucking lemming like you. So fuck off.

Here, at least in my own work and and social life, it is not like that at all. I know people who are and people who aren't and none of them get onto each other about it. Any conversations I've had about it have been pretty open. Those who are taking it seem fairly sober about and give their reasons and those who aren't do the same. Everyone that I have interacted with speaks from a prerspective that it is not an ideal situation and people are making their personal choices about it.

I have never worn a mask in the street throughout this whole time and only got hassled about it by a few random elderly people and every time it was while I was out skating. It has always been permitted to do sports outside without a mask. So those were clearly just insane people.

I've openly said shit like "No I'm not gonna take it. People like you are gonna take it so people like me don't have to." and that's just been accepted. The only time I got into a debate about it was the Spanish girlfriend of some scouse kid, who had decided to join us at our table. She was a bit drunk and way too interested in me mentioning not wearing a mask in the street. No one liked it, including her boyfriend who took her away to give her a little talking to and then she came back, apologised and the rest of the evening was a lot of fun.


Peace,

kowalski

The pharmaceutical companies will make a fortune from these under tested vaccines. Have a look into Ivermectin, and why that is not being mass produced.

Yesterday was the first day here when wearing masks in the street is no longer obligatory at a national level. However, the andalusian government issued a statement saying that they advise everyone to keep wearing them and you have to have one with you at all times (although they did not clarify under what circumstances a cop would be permitted to demand that you prove that you have one with you nor when your failure to do so would lead to some ind of charge). Most people are still wearing them. Being over 90% based on a quick head count I did while skating around.

I find this more suprising than people being obedient to the law as it could have been framed before. Now, I guess they are doing it because they believe that 1. you can get ill off someone who is far away from you when you are outdoors, like in an infection movie and 2. that masks reduce this risk in some measurable way either individually or collectively ... or it could be coming from their generally collective way of being down here, they have the highest blood donation rates of europe and definitey the higest of any nation where they aren't probably forcing people to give blood (Iran, India, China, and South Africa we know what you're up to). So they may be doing it just to show that they are good citizens who care about their fellow citizens at risk even if it is only as an inefective but very public display.

I honestly thought everyone wouldn't be able to wait to be able to walk in the street and smile and see other peoples smiles. I was even calling it "Smile day" in the lead up.
It should have been a huge unveiling and marked in history as "smile day" for ever more. Prior to this I thought "ok, you are just being obedient and don't want any hassle with the law" which is fair enough. But now I think "oh, you have low IQ, and you have low IQ, and you have low IQ" everywhere I go. It is kind of nice that the dumb peope are basically wearing a big colourful flag across their mouth that both graciously reduces their presence in the world and advertises that their views on pretty much everything are worthless.


At least in the mornings they are wearing them. Once it got to about 3pm and everyone had consumed a couple of cañas nearly no one was wearing them for the rest of the evening and into the night. It was pretty awesome, a lot of people were on La Almadea hagning out till the early hours.

Today I see a very similar % to yesterday with masks this morning. So we shall see how long that dance lasts. Especially as the tourists are not wearing them at all and their numbers will increase. Currently there are quite a few here and an excited festival vibe in the city as they also have some of the Euro footy games here. I can't see the locals continuing to wear them if they are outnumbered by foreigners who are not.


Peace,

kowalski

My cousin lives in Vegas and he sent us videos last night of live music, nightclubs open with no restrictions on numbers, people dancing, casinos packed out and groups of people celebrating wins, etc.

With the majority of people seemingly being stupid little sheep and doing what they're told, it looks like we'll eventually be in a minority group of unvaccinated people. Say, 5% or some shit.

Given that we're now 18 months into this bollocks and impositions are now pretty much "the norm" in that people will just accept it if the government suddenly tells them they have to eat between 4 and 5 pm every day, it's not entirely implausible that the cunts will make vaccination mandatory.

I don't care. I'll need to be held down and forcibly administered with it.