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Default 10-12-2010, 06:12 PM

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I'd also like to see evidence that increased levels of testosterone are advantageous to evolution. My view on it was that increased testosterone levels are dangerous in a potential partner and father as they cause aggression and irrationality, and are thus an undesirable trait in a potential mate.

Here's my evidence for that:

Circulating testosterone levels and aggression in adolescent males: a causal analysis -- Olweus et al. 50 (3): 261 -- Psychosomatic Medicine

Fetal Programming: Prenatal Testosterone Excess Leads to Fetal Growth Retardation and Postnatal Catch-Up Growth in Sheep -- Manikkam et al. 145 (2): 790 -- Endocrinology
Blanca your second article is entitled:

Fetal Programming: Prenatal Testosterone Excess Leads to Fetal Growth Retardation and Postnatal Catch-Up Growth in Sheep

In sheep dude??

Neither of these articles refute in any way the things that I have said. In fact they are irrelevant. Obviously too much of anything is a bad thing. When did I ever say TOO MUCH testosterone was good?
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Default 13-12-2010, 12:56 PM

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Blanca your second article is entitled:

Fetal Programming: Prenatal Testosterone Excess Leads to Fetal Growth Retardation and Postnatal Catch-Up Growth in Sheep

In sheep dude??

Neither of these articles refute in any way the things that I have said. In fact they are irrelevant. Obviously too much of anything is a bad thing. When did I ever say TOO MUCH testosterone was good?
Sheep and humans are physiologically similar, especially with relation to sexual dimorphism in utero and the production of male sex hormones. Thus, the article is relevant.

Also, whilst your first article may indeed pass as credible scientific evidence, it does have the unfortunate opening sentence of "Although many studies of male facial attractiveness assume that facial masculinity is related to circulating testosterone levels in adult males, there is little empirical evidence in support of this assumption."

Your second and fourth articles are magazine extracts, and are thus dismissable. You may as well quote from the Daily Mail.

To your credit, the Nature article does enhance your argument and made for interesting reading. I'll post some contrary evidence later.


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Default 13-12-2010, 02:41 PM

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I said MOST of the best athletes. Of course there are always exceptions but the exception does not change the rule, that's why it's called an EXCEPTION.
Why you feel the need to explain the word 'exception' to me is rather strange, but let's digress.

Our focus must be on the word RULE. Please elaborate on this so called 'rule' of yours. Or maybe this is perhaps a hunch you have...

So you can start with - What percentage of althetes are deemed hot by what percentage of the population?


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