Why do you care what cavemen looked like. Just concern yourself with getting some hot ass!

Okay dude will do! ;-) It's just when people are making a fortune out of twisting pop science and manipulating desperate men I feel duty bound to expound the REAL science behind their theories.

Maybe we're all in the wrong industry. If pop science makes as much money as pop music, then shouldn't we give that a shot?

kind of BUT i dont beleive you can pin point good looks to how u try.

advertising makes good looks what they r, not animal blah blah

an emo girl will fuck an emo boy

a high end hotty will fuck a high end boy

people are generaly scared to venture outside of their social groups, thats why pua's make more progress as we venture outside the box...

looks however still matter, whther thats natural, sense of dress

its not looks its appearance

True. But I happen to think that encouraging people to stop worrying about their looks is a positive thing.

Nah I don't agree. In caveman days (taking a pragamatic view on things) it was (probably) all about survival and resources. The best Cavemen PUA's we're (again probably) great providers and ugly as sin... the uglier and physically dominant the better! Then no one would fuck with them!

So when you say 'best looking' you have to take into account what values people considered important. Yesterday's ugly was (probably) today's good looking.

Physically dominant people are NOT ugly. What are you saying? High levels of testosterone give people the natural urge to be dominant, they also give you an athletic build, strong masculine features and a deep voice that women find attractive. This is not even theory any more, it's pretty much accepted scientific fact.

In America people are even starting to take artificial testosterone to give them a business edge at work. I watched a documentary about it. The wife of one the guys who was taking testosterone said, "I don't know what it is. I just find him more attractive now!"

Look what happens to people's bodies when they take steroids. My mate was taking testosterone twice a week. He had a body like one the guys from the movie 300. Speak to body builders, most will tell you, they get laid more when they are on a cycle.

Of course, I don't advocate the use of these things. They can be dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. There are plenty of natural ways to increase testosterone levels too.

You can be physically dominant and still have a face like a dropped pie. But you're right, physicality can be attractive.

But your argument about cavemen having large square jaws, even teeth and being rugby players doesn't stack up to me. It's to fact that physically dominant men are (generialisation) the type of personalities that go for what they want and some women respond well to that.

dude... Do your research! These are the physical traits of a person with a high level of testosterone. That's what makes strong babies. Women love their babies, ie they want them to be strong and healthy. Does that make sense?

Basically, when you learn PUA and alpha body language etc, you are adopting/mimicking the actions of a high-T male. This is the way he acts naturally because his hormones drive him to do so. They also make him good looking as an evolutionary advertisement for the healthy genes that he possesses. Beauty is synonymous with health, fitness and strength. Is it a coincidence that most of the best athletes are also incredibly good looking?

I can't argue with that, but at the same time I wouldn't be encouraging a guy who's like a 5 to go chasing after 10s, unless he REALLY does have game!