Thanks Dale, What id really like is a girl friend, but I feel I need to burst the bubble first. I've tried online dating, trouble is im quite naïve and needy and I find it hard to hide, I can try all the PUA stuff but sometimes I think girls can just sense it.

I can be quite good at day game some days with being a comedian but when girls start following me home from the park I panic and shake them off because im scared of what they will do when they find out the truth.

I met a great girl through a dating site 5 years ago who was a jazz Musician like myself. On the second date she got hold of my hand and told me she wanted to be more than friends with me. On the third date I went around to her flat, she wanted me to have sex with her (which I didn't know at that time) but I didn't know then what I know now and I was Mr nice guy and didn't do anything. The fourth date I went around to her flat with condoms and viagra in my pocket but id already messed it up and she said she just wanted to be friends with me now. I went home and attempted suicide.

Not sure if this is serious. If it is, then your problems are more than just being a virgin. Sort that out first.

It's all trial and error. Meet a girl, it either clicks or it doesn't. Sometimes it takes a while to click. Sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it doesn't click at all. Then it's onto the next one. People's feelings can't be controlled, and being less outcome-dependent will actually help you in the future. That, however, is a path you need to walk. Hope this makes sense.

Yes it is serious and did sort the other issues out, was five years ago. Thanks for your post.

I know you are right Kowalski, Thank you. Getting rid of neediness as a 35 year old virgin isn't easy though. Its a tough road.

I like you guys, Thank you.

get a brass. get it out of the way. its a psychological issue, which can be solved with money.

For once I'm actually agreeing with everything kowalskI just said. My two cents to being non needy around women and enjoying life is do a fun social hobby enjoy that involves meeting women in addition to cold approach. I started salsa got really good at it and haven't looked back I still do cold approach but salsa has made me really comfortable physically around women to the point where women cannot actually believe that I'm a virgin.

I can't believe you're an ass virgin

I'm surprising myself and starting to become a lot better with women. I've approached 5 girls this weekend and by being confident, relaxed and holding strong eye contact and complementing them and letting them know what my intentions are, 3 of them were very attracted and started flirting strongly.

I chickened out with one of them because of this virgin thing but am going to see two of them again. My question to you chaps is do you reckon I should tell these girls I'm a virgin when and if I get her in the bedroom or just go for it and see what happens.

The last girl I approached yesterday was getting really horny as we were talking I could see it, I possibly could have had sex with her right then, but I have this inexperience in the bedroom thing in my mind all the time and it stops me from taking it that far.

Don't tell her. It's not being deceitful - think of it the other way around, when men & women sleep with each other they don't turn around before the deed and say "BTW - I've slept with 18 girls before you" & the girl doesn't say "Cool, I've been with 11 guys". It could make things pretty awkward. Just go with the flow, by all means afterwards if it crops up as part of pillow talk then yes, tell her. Afterwards I don't see the harm in being honest & truthfull. Admit you were scared or nervous hence why you never said anything. The 2 main things are not to make a big deal out of it, be as relaxed as you can, and don't ask her "Was i any good?"