>>> APOLOGIES FOR HOW MUCH I WROTE... wasn't my intention but its just how it ended up...



Right before i get into this i know how it all sounds 'one-itis' and all that... yeah i read it and i just want few opinions on this specific idea.

Right basically this is how it goes...

I used to date this girl... I was 'Mr Nice Guy' beta status... Now altho i had beta status i was a year older, Had the looks, Cash... all the beta attractions and thats why i managed to date her even tho i was beta.

btw this girl is a HB9.5... and i think I'm being shallow there...

Anyway i date her for no more than say 2/3 weeks... I was shy nothing really much happened at the time i was a virgin and hadn't had much experience with girls.

So her ex gets jealous of me and makes an effort to get her back. Cos i was 'Mr Nice Guy' beta she goes strait back for him 'The Dick Head' beta.

So of course she then had a shoulder to cry on when he fucked her about... typical beta me

Now i get into my first serious relationship with another girl about 2 months on. I totally forget about her and focus on this new relationship (looking much more alpha from her point of view).

I got fucked around alot in this relationship (2nd one) and eventually decided to start seeing other people behind my girlfriends back. (I'm here to be honest, not morally judged) and at this point when i start talking to the original girl she is like butter for me... (Obviously i was accidently looking alpha or atleast 'Dick Head' beta). this got me a blow job when i was on a break with my girlfriend and a few kisses whilst i was with her... (shes still with the lad she fucked me off for but she's clearly wanting me to take her instead) then i got back with my ex (long story).

Obviously she didn't take this well. felt used ect... so she didn't speak for a while... then i go on another break with my girlfriend and basically the same happens again. and then i get back... and then again the same happens...

So i fucked her about 3 times.

Now the 4th time I spilt with my LTR was the final (this is like 3 months ago and she has moved away and shit so like it is beyond doubt over). I try texting the other girl. no reply. i try adding her on facebook, i get declined... ect ect ect. at first i was a little too needy then i started seeing other girls.

Basically I ain't tried to speak to her for 2 months now I'm currently seeing 4 girls (non are official or anything but they come regularly and w.e so yeah...)

Now I know most peoples immediate response will be go meet other girls ect and forget it its not worth the hassle sort of thing but I don't exactly live in london... where i live Isn't small and yes there are nicer girls... but very few.

I'm not sure if you will get my point or not but w.e..

btw only newish to the community so I present myself pretty differently from last time she seen me... only thing is i don't see her at all anymore. i no longer go to the same college. i live a few miles out. her friend circle is pretty controlled by her boyfriend. so my problem is that i can't find a doorway of opportunity to even try to change her perspective of me...

any help appreciated. tbh i will appreciate anyone thats bared with me throughout this epic post lol.

Much love as always
.db x.

I think you're going to have to let this one go mate.
If she doesn't text you or accept you on facebook and you can't meet up with her then I can't see any other way other than accidentally bumping into her.

You could try as a last resort sending her some random text messages, after all what have you got to lose. Try "your shit" there's some other stuff like this in here Flawless Natural Video Blog » Blog Archive » Tim’s Phone Game Exposed

I would force myself to leave it for a few months. Based on the facts you've given, she sounds like a bitch! She's used you, fucked you around then cheated on her bf with you - and doesn't seem worried about your other relationship.

I know when you're in the mix with a girl she can look like hot shit no matter what people tell you - been there. But there are better options, even in a small town.


Forget about her for a few months (at least three) no more txts. Go out, game, see other girls. In a few months - if you still want to, and you may well not - get in contact. By then you will be in the driving seat.

You meet her now and you are setting yourself up to get hurt!

I think you need to take a step back mate. I'd forget about both of them man, the 9.5 obviously isnt very faithful and it clearly doesnt work with you and your ex. This might be an unpopular comment but if you're looking for a relationship you shouldn't fuck girls around. Its cool that your honest but you shouldn't mess girls about, or mess yourself about. Just be honest, let girls know what you want from them (careful cos there is alot of bad ways to do this).

cheers lads.

appreciate this advice and since writing it I've had like a huge epiphany before even reading your advice, its totally unrelated but it makes the ex situation totally completely futile.

I've decided to completely reshape my life. I'm sick and tired of its direction.

I'm quitting university, (I took computer games programming), and now I'm going to study phycology in my spare time whilst traveling to different parts of UK/Europe or wherever i can go realistically...

I've realised that I can quit dreaming of what I would like to do, and just think fuck it and do it. because there is no reason I can't.

I will be taking on alot of debt by leaving uni but end of the day reading into pickup (more specifically the natural inner side of things thats not 100% pickup) has made me realise that I don't wanna be some games programmer stuffed in a office in front of a pc for hours at a time. I think my value system has improved enough for me to see my true aspirations and to not be afraid to chase them.

I'm no longer doing what I'm good at for the sake of accomplishment. I'm doing whatever the fuck I want.


Much Love
.db x.

woah man, just make sure you're exactly clear what you want? Can you not finish your degree and study psychology at the same time?

db,
My tuppence worth. I think the "im doing whatever the fuck I want or I dont give a fuck" can potentially lead to someone downfall. Yes, have that attitude when you are out in the field and having an AA, or you bothered of what other people think, etc etc but when it comes to quitting your course cos you are chasing your other aspirations, then it is something that you need to sit down and think about this decision in depth not to just say "I dont give a fuck".

Education/Degree is important. Who says you will end up in front of a computer doint eh course you doing? A degree opens many doors. All Im saying is think about this deeper and not a "I dont give a fuck" just because you hear it being mentioned numerous times in the community...!

Good Luck!

Okay right I have to admit the 'I don't give a fuck' was probably the wrong way to put it. the course is a BSc in Computer games programming. Basically I know the way i put it across was a bit like I'm doing it to chase some crazy dream lifestyle... But its not. I've played with the idea for a while never thought i would have the balls to just try it. And now I'm going to. I'm 18 years old and the life plan I have set myself out is shit. I have moved out and got myself my own life and learned so much about life in the last 6 weeks... I've discovered there is so much more to life... and i wanna go away travel and experience things first hand before I pick a career... Its not like I'm screwing up a life... I'm finding a life... I will find a career afterward... One that suits me. I have A-Levels that will get me back into uni if thats the path i choose. If not then fine.

This choice is a whole lifestyle based choice... Its nothing to do with girls... the only relation it has to do with this community is the fact that I've made it with improved value reasoning... I'm not after money anymore. I've realised that i shouldn't do something I dislike to get money... so uni is pointless coz i hate going... and I'm bright enough to do something i want to do and become one of the best in whatever it is i get interested in...

I'm not looking for validation on this I'm just stating something the community has helped me realise.

Thanks for the concern

.db x.

fair enough man, just make sure you think about it real hard as you're losing quite a bit of money. If I was you I'd stick out uni for now, especially as your degree can lead to good jobs. I used to program games(at noob level) and fantasied about being a games designer for ages. Anyway, your degree would show you're very logical so there's no end of jobs you can get from it. But anyway, do what you wanna do, if you don't enjoy your course then its cool, just make sure you're not wasting your fees for nothing

Spoken to my course leader at uni and I'm able to suspend my studies for a year... So this is what I'm going to do... Wont effect me much financially but i will maybe have to find another part time job to cover what i will loose from not getting my student loan... Also to save enough to go on some crazy travels I will be working more hours but this will allow me to do what I truly want to... I'm actually excited haha!

.db x.