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Default 23-04-2011, 06:06 AM

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No, I didn't read that from weight watchers. No, I don't mean that cardio 5 times a week is useless. No, I don't mean that diet helps you keep or build mass.

I mean that danieljamie wants to lose weight, and that given the same amount of time and effort diet gets you results faster than exercise, so he better focus on that. A tough workout for unused people burns 600 kcal and takes 1-2 hours. With diet you can cut 1200 and save 1 hour of cooking.
Additionally, people often eat snacks and energy supplements after workouts for the "feel good" factor, which kills 50% of the set.

As to calories deficit, it's physics: a kilogram of fat is 7-8000 kcal, and your body works out of energy. You don't kick in enough, it will burn it from fat.

Bottom line: if you want to lose weight, diet is just simpler, faster and more trackable than exercise. If you have time and brains to implement well both, then welcome.
ur forgeting that your metabolic rate is increased after workouts so u continue to lose weight post workout.


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Default 23-04-2011, 03:59 PM

I haven't read all the posts and I'm not going to cos I can't be arsed but I'm gonna fill you guys in on some of the stuff I know and more importantly the expose the bullshit going round.

1: callorie counting can work if you keep say 1500 calories but this will make you lose muscle and end up looking like a teenager or if your an older gentleman a major drug addict.
I would suggest this if you are seriously fat and take about 2500.
If you're eating 8000 callories a day your gonna have to run about 75 miles a day to stay slim.

2: exercise is the key and weight training is best. build thigh muscles cos it's the biggest muscle and thus any growth will drastically increase your metabolism. For every pound of muscle you burn 50 extra kals a day.

3: diet coke is the most misunderstood product in the world. It was intended for diabetic people not people on a diet. the sweeteners in diet coke fuck up your system cos they're designed to bypass the pancreas and as such make you gain weight like like a cunt. (and causes cellulite in women (men can't get cellulite))

4: I'm not sure if they've banned this yet but hydrogenated oils will fuck you up. if 1% of your diet consists of them it increases your risk of heart disease by 50%. reason being. they bond hydrogen with the oil which makes it thicker. During this process trans fats are created. Trans fats don't exist in ANY natural food. when they enter your system your liver doesn't have a fucking clue so they just hang around and do nothing. It keeps for ages cos even the bacteria turn their noses to it.

5:drinking alcohol regularly decreases your metabolism by about 30% not to mention 1 pint has about the same amount of calories as a jam doughnut. Whilst drunk your liver is way to busy sorting out the booze so anything eaten is stored as fat as a prioritising measure.

6: LOW FAT!! FUCK OFF!! low fat diets like calorie counting are a short term fix and after 6 months when your fat supplies run dry your body will start to create and store fat. reason you need fat to survive.

7: Atkins!! great you'll lose weight for sure. you'll also lose your hair teeth and the will to live!!

8: stop being a fucking pussy!! go down to your local boot sale and you'll probably find a couple of fuckers with a huge collection of weight loss vids for sale. reason they thought it would be their magic pill. when you exersise do it like a mad man if you not in pain your not doing it right.


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Default 23-04-2011, 05:57 PM

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I haven't read all the posts and I'm not going to cos I can't be arsed but I'm gonna fill you guys in on some of the stuff I know and more importantly the expose the bullshit going round.

1: callorie counting can work if you keep say 1500 calories but this will make you lose muscle and end up looking like a teenager or if your an older gentleman a major drug addict.
I would suggest this if you are seriously fat and take about 2500.
If you're eating 8000 callories a day your gonna have to run about 75 miles a day to stay slim.

2: exercise is the key and weight training is best. build thigh muscles cos it's the biggest muscle and thus any growth will drastically increase your metabolism. For every pound of muscle you burn 50 extra kals a day.

3: diet coke is the most misunderstood product in the world. It was intended for diabetic people not people on a diet. the sweeteners in diet coke fuck up your system cos they're designed to bypass the pancreas and as such make you gain weight like like a cunt. (and causes cellulite in women (men can't get cellulite))

4: I'm not sure if they've banned this yet but hydrogenated oils will fuck you up. if 1% of your diet consists of them it increases your risk of heart disease by 50%. reason being. they bond hydrogen with the oil which makes it thicker. During this process trans fats are created. Trans fats don't exist in ANY natural food. when they enter your system your liver doesn't have a fucking clue so they just hang around and do nothing. It keeps for ages cos even the bacteria turn their noses to it.

5:drinking alcohol regularly decreases your metabolism by about 30% not to mention 1 pint has about the same amount of calories as a jam doughnut. Whilst drunk your liver is way to busy sorting out the booze so anything eaten is stored as fat as a prioritising measure.

6: LOW FAT!! FUCK OFF!! low fat diets like calorie counting are a short term fix and after 6 months when your fat supplies run dry your body will start to create and store fat. reason you need fat to survive.

7: Atkins!! great you'll lose weight for sure. you'll also lose your hair teeth and the will to live!!

8: stop being a fucking pussy!! go down to your local boot sale and you'll probably find a couple of fuckers with a huge collection of weight loss vids for sale. reason they thought it would be their magic pill. when you exersise do it like a mad man if you not in pain your not doing it right.
Re diet coke, aspartamine is harmless and it doesnt contibute in any way shape pr form to weight gain. Also ts is not a pussy either.
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Default 23-04-2011, 06:49 PM

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Re diet coke, aspartamine is harmless and it doesnt contibute in any way shape pr form to weight gain. Also ts is not a pussy either.
Aspartame has been implicated in all kinds of nasty shit, it is not harmless.

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Aspartame has been implicated in all kinds of nasty shit, it is not harmless.

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No it hasn't. This is a common misconception.
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Default 24-04-2011, 09:15 AM

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No it hasn't. This is a common misconception.
Really? I'll need some convincing. It's nutritionally dead, artificial crap that takes more from the body than it provides (chromium leeching for example). It perpetuates consumption of false idol "low fat" artificial products which are a patch on the problem in society. It fucks with the satiety loop in the body by being sweet yet having no nutrition hence we crave more and more. It's been suggested as a neurotoxin causing excitement and degradation in the brain. It's had a profound number of public complaints against it leading to implications in everything from MS to Cancer. I gather the research supporting it is paid for by those who produce it, unsurprisingly.

Now I am biased against anything artificial and suspect we don't fully understand the implications of any of these products yet.

However, you sound confident, I'm open to being educated if you can give me some good sources I might find credible.

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Default 24-04-2011, 12:09 PM

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Re diet coke, aspartamine is harmless and it doesnt contibute in any way shape pr form to weight gain. Also ts is not a pussy either.
bollox to you and your diet coke. It tastes crap anyway you may as well just drink water or orange juice.

can you please make the last sentence more understandable.


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Default 24-04-2011, 01:31 PM

someone has been suckered in by the weightwatchers diet!!

have u seen how macdonalds r plugin Kcal now,

u have a RDA of kkal... like maccies is good 4 u

shouldnt be allowed


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Default 24-04-2011, 02:26 PM

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someone has been suckered in by the weightwatchers diet!!

have u seen how macdonalds r plugin Kcal now,

u have a RDA of kkal... like maccies is good 4 u

shouldnt be allowed
I hate everything about weight watchers. like weight watchers food that costs way more than the equivalent even though it's the same product and they make it so complicated. I don't know anyone who has lost weight and kept it off with weight watchers.

I also hate people telling me to eat salad the reason lettuce tastes shit is cos there's nothing in it.


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I hate everything about weight watchers. like weight watchers food that costs way more than the equivalent even though it's the same product and they make it so complicated. I don't know anyone who has lost weight and kept it off with weight watchers.

I also hate people telling me to eat salad the reason lettuce tastes shit is cos there's nothing in it.
Do you not eat any salad? What do you eat, out of interest
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