After a little bit of looking for a wing man here on the PUA forum it looks hopeless. So I am seriously considering doing that on my own. It feels kind of odd just to think about it ..

I usually hang out with girls but every time when we go out together they do not help but f*** up every single chance I have even though they might be in relationships with other guys or even married they always act like I was they property and snick in some stupid sentence into every single interaction I have with women.
For example " I cannot believe I am still friend with him...( when I joke about something )" or " He is a player be careful!!!!!" etc ... and when I have conversation with my friends why the hell they do that for ?...Their usual answers are : Well she is not good enough for you, she is ugly (even though she looks good) or just stupid think like hmmmm ''I was just joking ...she definitely knew that I was just....
I just want to have some fun ..right?

I do not hang out with guys cos' I have problem to find someone due to some kind of competition going on between me( where I do not really want to participate ) and them where they try to prove that they are better than me (all I am waiting is when one of them comes up with idea to measure our penises somewhere in a Pub or Club just to prove that he is cooler than me buuuuuuuut I do not give a falafel who has what etc....)and it is even worse than hanging out with girls which I enjoy lot more ...

The essence of greatness is the perception that virtue is enough

Go out with girls like you already do... but LEAVE THEM in the club and find some pussy AWAY FROM THEM. This is what I have been doing, I go out and chill with girls, but leave them and keep meeting up again every so often for a dance/drinks (make them pay and say you will get next round in)

I can't explain WHY they are cock blocking you, but try not to be bitter about it, instead, just assume its cos they wana fuck you too

Hi Crow203,

Solo sarging is great for social conditioning and forces you out of you confort zone. This is something I what to start focusing on myself. Unfortunately I only have a limited supply of wings who arent always available.

I've tried the option of going out with friends who know nothing about game, but they just fuck it up by making endless amounts of mistakes like permanently scanning, constantly shifting around the venue for no bloody reason, and pressuring me to open sets so they can be introduced to them. I could feel my state rapidly dropping and myself getting sucked into their chode reality.

I did a bit of solo game and drove to a lively town so I wouldnt have to worry about bumping into friends wondering why i'm on my own (not like I should be giving a shit what other people think about me).

Bearing in mind I was completely sober but still managed to open a handfull of sets and hit the dance floor in some loud bars.

Interestingly I was in a HIGHER STATE and got more IOI's on my own then when hanging out with a non pua friends.

So here's my opinion:

Option 1. Go out with a wing
Option 2 Go out alone
Option 3 go out with chode friends who blows all the sets and lowers you state.

I have a lot of respect for solo sargers

Your not the only one trust me.Im stuck in a poxy back water town with no wings readily available at mo.So unless i travel im solo 2!!
Its fairly rough as just starting out, solo or wid chode m8s im getting blown out all the time.
Like u most of my friends are chodes.Im either trying to hook up with a natural or 2 to go out with (less chance of getting my state lowered) or hooking one of my chode m8s into sarging (struggling to decide which one might be the most ideal).
The plus like captain said tho tougher you learn more quicker right!!

Given you're situation I'd stick with it, it is hard and you have no one to bounce off, but believe me you will progress much quicker and be stronger in in a much shorter space of time. Also depends how often you go out I was out 3/4 nights usually more I'm not suggesting you do this but the sooner you feel its not a problem and you're completley comfortable going solo the better. going out with wings will seem easier by comparison.

Im usually going out 2 nights a week (ive only been doing this seriously full on for 2 weekends now tho,so it can be upped depending on what shift im working).
But i am trying to fit chicks in through the day also,im a lil more comfotable with day game as ive not frequented pub/clubs in 3 plus years they feel a bit awkward and alien at present still.
I get your point tho rather than roping someone else in to make it easier now when its toughest,by essentially taking the longer harder road in the long run my game will be much stronger for it?!
If im gona be doing it that way Its a good job im think skinned haha

just tell them

Pack it in or we will fall out! do u understand me?

ur supposed to be my friend, act like it... i can choose who i wanna speak to ... THE END

I found that other people hindered me in my success, I was typically better on my own anyway. You have nothing to hold you back its a case 'Hi' here I am, I don't have any distractions, I don't ahve to worry about my friends having a good time or what to do if she blows my friend out, non of this is relevant.

You'll get so much respect from women who like a guy with the balls to go out by himself, but it really isn't a big deal because you go out by yourself and no one gives a fuck you were out by yourself anyway.

Do it

That is a good point I think my friends are just a little bit selfish and think that when I am with them I should be something like they puppy who will entertain them during the night. I do like your idea that I should leave them in the club and try to find someone away from them... That might actually work quite well but I will also try to go out on my own too....