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Default 04-01-2014, 04:25 AM

You're a young dude, and I'm not so young. But what is interesting is we have both ventured out on the high seas of this venture at the same time almost and are on the same voyage.

We are facing the same challenges. I think we have a common bond in respect of we are facing the same challenges. I just put them off a much longer time and I'm further down life's road. But it's better to face up to life's challenges one day than never at all. Don't ever beat yourself up too much for facing up to the things that you're facing up to. Most people never face up to them.

It took me a lot longer to get to the point you are at. But I tell myself if I had waited another 5 years to address this it would have been worse so I am not feeling bad at the moment, despite the short term pain I'm feeling. It's a necessary part of the process of self growth. And I'm not looking for salvation in the future, I'm too involved in the process now.

One thing I've learned for sure is that you never get something worthwhile without enduring some kind of pain and enduring hardship. If it's too easy you know you're doing something wrong.


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Default 07-01-2014, 05:01 PM

Had a great conversation with a girl on the bus, we both shared each others travelling experiences and we parted with her saying to me "you're different from the rest".

This sparked the thought of many past experiences where girls have said that I'm different. Some about building her up to sex, having her fantasise about it and then break it off by been unavailable. This was an attitude of fear during my younger years that actually, in the long run, seemed to highten her emotions and start chasing me. More so, most of this attitude I made steps to get rid of.

I don't really know what the girls actually meant by what they said, but also, looking back at that, its made me realise just how terrible I was.

After this, there was another girl who stood up to get off at the same stop as me. I approached oto initiate conversation straight away and found out that we were both going the same way down the road so we walked together. No phyical escalation; something I really need to get into my day game.

Talking to people like I should already know them and approaching without making excuses not to, are becoming more frequent. I still feel some fear talking to select girls but thats only when I have time to feel like that and, even when I do have time to think about it, a lot of the time, it doesn't stop me from taking action.

I'm doing pretty well atm, feel like something has just clicked and part of the jixsaw puzzle has been worked into place.

Progress is sweet.


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Default 07-01-2014, 06:55 PM

I think the fear of physical escalation is that it might trigger a bad response if you don't get it right. Doesn't seem so much of a problem in a packed club when you're both pissed but in broad daylight it does seem to need more tact and diplomacy. A friendly tap on the arm is probably level 1 on the volume control. A woman I don't know did this to me in the pub on Sunday. She was also twirling her hair. But she was with her bloke.


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Default 07-01-2014, 07:46 PM

I thought daygame was more about verbal escalation. You have a convo until you get a hook, back off a bit, push /pull. tease, then after 5 mins try for an instant date or take the number as appropriate.


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Default 07-01-2014, 09:05 PM

Been physical doesn't just mean fingering her pussy, though I think that's what many people believe it to be, a sort of sexual intent. I simply mean holding her hand, playful jabs, stroking her hair etc..
Coincidentally, about 2-3 weeks ago I got talking to a young couple as they were walking home from a night out. The guy clearly wanted to get home after 15mins or so but the girl was deep in conversation. Her hubby said he was going home and she was like "Yeh okay Gary fuck off, I'm talking for a while longer".

I feel day game just kinda flows when you get into a good conversation. I just evolve 1 topic out of another and almost float from 1 topic to the next. Using PUA jargon like hooks and stuff alike just over complicates the situation; a conversation doesn't need to be hard and PUA jargon riddled, if it is then it will start to make you go in your head about the situation, precisely the opposite to what you want.


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Default 07-01-2014, 09:26 PM

Well you don't want to be going in your head to think "hookpoint?". No that's bad, but these are just labels given to things that would happen naturally in a good natural convo where attraction is being built. You need labels to explain it to someone who can't (or doesn't believe they can) do it naturally.

They could help if you keep getting stuck. Like I end up having a nice convo but don't know when / how to change gear to escalate, close, etc.

It's just like training wheels.


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Default 07-01-2014, 09:50 PM

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They could help if you keep getting stuck. Like I end up having a nice convo but don't know when / how to change gear to escalate, close, etc.

It's just like training wheels.
To be honest, I frequently change it whenever I want. I can be in mid swing of some stuff that I'm saying and then suddenly stop, wait a few seconds and compliment her like I never noticed it before. You can then change the topic to escalate or keep on that topic and make it physical.


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Default 11-01-2014, 03:34 PM

In the last 3 weeks I've been balls to the wall, gunning an all-out attitude to progress in my game and life in general. I've been doing awesome. Reason; because I'm not doing the thinking anymore, I'm not holding myself back. I'm being the person I want to be.

I look at this and know if myself a year ago was looking at the person I am right now, I know only 1 question would be asked; how the fuck are you doing it man!?! And my response would be "I'm not 'doing it', I'm being". Fucking Zen-like shit.

When I was going out, pretty much the whole of last year, day or night, my attitude was a HUGE hindrance. I can't even say "I thought this or that" because I have no idea what the fuck I was thinking but I knew for certain that I needed to get my shit together.

I listened to The Jeffy Show. It is the shit. Recommended. And a load of other audio's/vids/ebooks whilst also actively approaching; though not as much as I wanted to. I realized what I needed to do and the order of which to do them in. So I created goals; not these yearly half-hearted goals people make up to be a good Christian. No. 3 year goals. 5 year goals. 10 year goals. If I accomplish goals before the allotted time frame, bonus! If they are no longer relevant. I change them. If they are accomplished. I step it up a notch.

I go out everyday now. I don't like calling it day game, it's implying that in every conversation there's a winner which I don't like. I keep it simple. To me it's just socializing. For a good few months now I have exchanged light conversation with a hot girl in B&M. I know she likes me. So yesterday is the first time I've seen her after the New Year. I've just got a number off a girl who has just came out of the swimming baths. I already felt good, now I feel awesome. I see her look at me, it then becomes apparent she's staring. I walk upto her, her eyes are actually sparkling, her face lifts and a big beaming smile takes over. "If your eyes sparkle like that again, I'll have to ask you out". We continue the conversation, hardly ever braking eye contact. She's talking about the past christmas rush and buying presents. I am telling her about my christmas working experiences and then suddenly stop and say she's hot, to which her eyes started sparkling again "and your eyes are sparkling again. Rules are rules. Meet you in starbucks after your shift." She agreed. I pulled out my phone and typed '07' in with her name as 'sparkles', handed her it and she proceeded to type her number in. I love getting the number this way, it's more my attitude than making a question out of it.


My attitude has changed massively over the last few weeks which has led me to feel more connected to what I want to do and what I'm achieving; a sense of entitlement. I've always been good enough, I just needed to learn how to implement it.

I was supposed to be entertaining the clubs of Manchester with my Boro/Geordie accent tonight but in accordance to a tradition that I didn't know existed, I have been called to a diner party event to celebrate my uncles 40th birthday. Re-vised the Megabus tickets so Manchester next week for sure.


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Default 11-01-2014, 04:10 PM

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I look at this and know if myself a year ago was looking at the person I am right now, I know only 1 question would be asked; how the fuck are you doing it man!?! And my response would be "I'm not 'doing it', I'm being". Fucking Zen-like shit.
Love that last line!


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Default 11-01-2014, 05:01 PM

Yeah good work dude.


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