Broadswords Thread

[Shahanshah]

Originally Posted by Phenom

You're missing the point markuk.

I get the impression that Broadsword has realised that pussy just isn't the priority for him he once thought it was.

I've seen an evolution in his posts. He's gone from a whiny bitch first post where he thought his all his problems were other peoples fault to a guy who feels much happier about his place in the world. With or without a throng of chicks all vying for his cock or not!

I asked him how he feels about himself since joining this forum to the present day. He hasn't responded yet but if he does and he say's he feels much better about himself, then the forum has done it's job and helped a guy gain a better understanding of his dating issues, and subsequently felt happier as a result.... which is why we all come somewhere like here in the first place.

Weird that you get the vibe he feels to good to chase girls? Give the guy a break, he seems happy doing his thing.

Nah this is wrong. Avoiding your issue as a way to feel happy is stupid. Anyway if all you care about is being content and happy go find some hippy well being forum. This is a dating forum. It'd be like joining a bodybuilding forum and saying you're fine not going to the gym and dieting - and you had muscular dystrophy.

Or being unemployed your entire life and saying you're career is sorted because you signed on and have no ambition to get a job. I'm the first say Broadsword is a normal person which puts him in the good 1% of PUA.

If you have a deficiency you have to compensate or at least address it.

You need a rough plan or mindset:

I will go out every weekend and approach 12 girls and at least ask them for their number. I will also go out during the week unless I'm on a date or doing a proactive hobby.

I will meet up with people off forums and/or hang out with 'cooler' people I know who chat to girls.

I will join dating sites and message X amount of girls

My feeling is that a plan like that would help him for the first month just to pop your cherry of it all before going into a more normal yet consistent approach.

If you really feel like dating isn't a big deal at all in your position maybe you're asexual.

[dan300]

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

I'm the first say Broadsword is a normal person which puts him in the good 1% of PUA.

Would you put me in the 1% of cool people?

[Shahanshah]

You're in the top 1% of people who leave messages in the comment section of porn videos.

[Phenom]

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

Nah this is wrong. Avoiding your issue as a way to feel happy is stupid.

Who says he's avoiding his issues? He's been speed dating and he talks to girls. That doesn't sound like he's avoiding his dating issues to me. Sounds to me more like the guy is taking things at a pace he is comfortable with. What's your problem with that?

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

Anyway if all you care about is being content and happy go find some hippy well being forum. This is a dating forum.

I prefer to think of this as a self improvement forum. A place where guys with low self esteem, low self confidence and naivety come to get better. If that manifestation is in improving their dating life, then so be it. If it's just about feeling better about themselves then so be it too. If it was just a dating forum you wouldn't act so vehemently towards posts that espouse using tactics and manipulation like you do.

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

It'd be like joining a bodybuilding forum and saying you're fine not going to the gym and dieting - and you had muscular dystrophy.

One of the biggest MMA fans I have ever met is a guy who is confined to a wheelchair due to cystic fibrosis. He travels to loads of grassroots shows, meets the fighters, supports the community and just loves to immerse himself in MMA, he just straight up loves it. But by your logic, because he can never train he shouldn't be joining any MMA forums. That is some whack shit if that's your logic.

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

If you have a deficiency you have to compensate or at least address it.

Show me where he hasn't done this?

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

I will go out every weekend and approach 12 girls and at least ask them for their number. I will also go out during the week unless I'm on a date or doing a proactive hobby.

I will meet up with people off forums and/or hang out with 'cooler' people I know who chat to girls.

I will join dating sites and message X amount of girls

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

If you really feel like dating isn't a big deal at all in your position maybe you're asexual.

What exactly is my position? And I don't think dating is a big deal.... and I'm not asexual.

If Broadsword followed your advise we'd have another little Serendipity running around. Funny that Serendipity pretty much agreed with many of your comments on Broadswords thread, I wonder what does that say?

[Shahanshah]

1) If you paid any attention you would see it is clear he avoids or at least doesn't do much in the way of girls. Speed dating doesn't count and neither does 'talking to girls'.

2) It is a dating forum though and it is the main reason you would start a journal in the field report section. Yes I dont like weird PUA stuff but dating and sex is a normal important thing.

3). . .uhhh. . . cool buy him a wheelchair on me. You took an analogy (and the jokey end part) and took it literally whilst implying that Broadsword is here to be a fan boy.

4) Being 31 and a virgin, and after a year of being on the forum, and still he really hasn't done much. I'm not going to organise a bibliography of his posts but its clear there's a lack of action which is okay as that's easy enough when you're not a retard. But this forum has too much 'cheerleading' and confusing 'anti-pua' with anti-dating.

5 and 6) Yeah everybody, and I mean everybody, went through the phase of going out a lot and even trying out PUA behaviours, lines etc. Whilst we can argue about trying out PUA stuff, everybody needs to do the 'going out loads' phase.

I remember your coming-back post and it was very clear you did a lot of going out and approaching, and that you find it a big deal. And note I said "In your position" anyway. If Broadsword followed my advice which was essentially "Go and chat up girls" but sometimes setting yourself a little bit of structure when your starting off with something or nervous can help.

I always find it funny when people on here advocate the whole "Do nothing" approach.

[top-hat]

Can I refer back to my guide to game post now...xD

[Shahanshah]

I think I've spoken about this kinda subject with my mates before and I don't think anybody has ever said anything less than "You'd get that shit sorted right away!" not "Oh well if you've said hi to a girl you've tried your best", that's what a girl would say.

[Phenom]

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

1) If you paid any attention you would see it is clear he avoids or at least doesn't do much in the way of girls. Speed dating doesn't count and neither does 'talking to girls'.

No mate if you paid attention you'd know he was a guy with massive anxiety issues and had a terrible psychology towards women. He was very honest and open and Kowalski ripped him apart and he still stuck around. Comparing his first post to where he is at now is HUGE. You're wrong, speed dating and talking to girls definitely does count. What's more is that he holds himself accountable and recognises when he could've done better and done more, which is key to not be coming a weird Serendipity type who just does the same thing day in day out without evolving. Just because he hasn't got laid and isn't going out every night getting shit faced is your measuring stick not his. His measuring stick counts, your's means fuck all.

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

2) It is a dating forum though and it is the main reason you would start a journal in the field report section. Yes I dont like weird PUA stuff but dating and sex is a normal important thing.

No a journal in the field report section is exactly that. It's a man's journal of what he decides is a field report. There is no hard and fast definition that states it must soley contain reports of banging chicks and getting shit faced. So long as it's true it can be whatever it wants. If it's about having a 3 way in the club toilets with two HB9's then great. If it doesn't then....great.

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

3). . .uhhh. . . cool buy him a wheelchair on me. You took an analogy (and the jokey end part) and took it literally whilst implying that Broadsword is here to be a fan boy.

He has a wheelchair, his healthcare is awesome, I'm happy for him. I took an analogy you took the time to write. Jokey or not by your analogous logic someone with muscular dystrophy shoul'dnt be joining a bodybuilding forum. That is still whack and if you feel I'm twisting your words then don't type shit.....shit sticks.

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

4) Being 31 and a virgin, and after a year of being on the forum, and still he really hasn't done much. I'm not going to organise a bibliography of his posts but its clear there's a lack of action which is okay as that's easy enough when you're not a retard. But this forum has too much 'cheerleading' and confusing 'anti-pua' with anti-dating.

Again your wrong. Has has done an awful lot. Again if you paid attention you would see he is literally a changed man in that year if you follow his posts. So what if he hasn't gotten laid, I get the impression he doesn't actually care. Once again his lack of action if purely your perception. Again you are judging what he does or doesn't do by your measuring stick, and what did we say about your measuring stick?

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

5 and 6) Yeah everybody, and I mean everybody, went through the phase of going out a lot and even trying out PUA behaviours, lines etc. Whilst we can argue about trying out PUA stuff, everybody needs to do the 'going out loads' phase.

Everybody? So we're all the same and go on the exact same journey do we? Find me a reliable source that says this is the rule and i'l shit in my hands and clap.

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

I remember your coming-back post and it was very clear you did a lot of going out and approaching, and that you find it a big deal. And note I said "In your position" anyway. If Broadsword followed my advice which was essentially "Go and chat up girls" but sometimes setting yourself a little bit of structure when your starting off with something or nervous can help.

My coming back post was over a year ago and you're right I did, but a lot has changed then. I would even say I'm a different man now, with completley different attitudes and perceptions to the man who wrote that coming back post. I figure Broadsword is the same. Broadsword's happy doing his thing, he's fine as he is and there's certainly room for improvement, just like everyone of us, just like I said to markuk give the guy a break.

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

I always find it funny when people on here advocate the whole "Do nothing" approach.

Find me one example of where he has been advised to do nothing.

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

I think I've spoken about this kinda subject with my mates before and I don't think anybody has ever said anything less than "You'd get that shit sorted right away!" not "Oh well if you've said hi to a girl you've tried your best", that's what a girl would say.

Maybe that would't be bad advice if something was a problem for you. What you're missing is I don't think it's a problem for Broadsword anymore. He's said he's found other passions and endevours that are his priority's now and he's found happiness in them. This has led to him understanding the answers to his problems don't lie in a chicks twat as you would seem to believe, and who knows maybe that is true for you.

If he get's laid and meets a cool girl then good on him, if it takes another year so what. He's found the key to success with women, he does what he wants, takes life by his own pace and evolves where he can.

[Shahanshah]

That was a bunch of feel good rhetoric but I'm sure it'll go down great.

[Phenom]

Originally Posted by Shahanshah

That was a bunch of feel good rhetoric but I'm sure it'll go down great.