I was listening to a pod-cast at Home - Pickup Podcast - Where Gurus Gather: Free Interviews with Pickup Artists and Dating Secrets from Gurus. Weekly Podcast on the Science of Social Dynamics and interaction yesterday, if you haven't heard of these guys its a weekly pick-up related show hosted by two guys called 'AJ' and 'Jordan' these guys also run 'The Art of Charm' a self help company that expands beyond the realms of 'Game' transcending into other areas of life such as self confidence, business management, public speaking etc. They champion Natural Game and do not teach openers/routines.

Anyway, this particular episode was predominantly focused on body language extending beyond the basics that we are all familiar with.

I can't say I agree with everything in this list but I feel many of the points are valid in my opinion and maybe of use to some of you. Any flak or praise for this should not be directed at me.

They were talking about;

10 things to look out for (During the Attraction Phase)

These are things that ideally you should not be doing yourself but instead if you can recognise her doing these things then you can percieve them to be IOIs and if you get several of these you can plough on.

Disclaimer:
Now the thing about IOIs is not to read too much into them as they can
sometimes be completely mis-calibrated. You don't want to be completely focused on looking out for IOIs either, this is detrimental to your game.

So in order as described in the show;

10) Over-use of filler words

Filler words are basically, any word such as um, ahh or sooo (brain farts) to fill in conversational time whilst you think of something to say and to keep her attention. This can make you look unsure about what you are saying and unused to being the focus of attention/holding court, which could have some people percieve you as low-value. If however you notice a girl doing this then chances are she's trying to keep your attention on her.

9) Replying with overly thought answers to simple questions.

Adding unecessary details/irrelevance to an answer or trying too hard to come up with/think of an intelligent answer, witty reposte to a simple question such as; 'Where are you from?'

8) Waiting around

Pretty obvious one. If a girl says to you 'I'm just going to the toilet' and like me you've been guilty in the past of standing/sitting around waiting for her to return and alas she never does return. Instead don't wait around for her, you're a man with places to be and people to see. Instead say 'Ok, well I'm going to the bar or I'm going to talk to those people over there'. If she likes you, she can come find you.

If however she goes to the toilet and she entrusts you to look after her purse/belongings this is NOT a shit/compliance test. Be a gentlemen and look after her things, she will return to you.

7) Projecting Overly Positive Bodylanguage too early

Don't approach and open with overly positive bodylanguage, give it only when it becomes deserved. Approach with confidence and self assuredness yes, but conveying too much positivity towards them straight off the bat can make them feel as if they've won you over already and that you have already validated them and inturn make them feel that you are seeking value and validation from them in return.

6) Head Snapping

You hear someone in a group mention you're name, you turn your head so fast to identify and participate in the source of the conversation you give yourself whip-lash injuries to your neck!

Searching for value as quickly as you can sounds counter-intuitive but its important not to appear value seeking, after all a confident and self assured man doesnt need to feed off crumbs of validation from others. A man of value is used to having people talk to him all the time and hear his name banded about and therefore turns to talk to people in his own time.

5) Fidgeting

This is common. Fidgeting is just a reaction to nervous energy within you, people don't often realise they are fidgeting but in order to eradicate this you need to identify or better still be told by somebody else observing you about your fidgeting habits so that you can be aware of them and take steps to prevent you from fidgeting when you are feeling nervous.

If you notice a girl fidgeting around you, chances are she's nervous or intimidated herself around you. If so, call her out on it and say 'Why are you being so nervous? you don't need to be nervous around me'. To raise the issue with them conveys empathy, power and dominance. She's then more likely to be put at ease and into a more comfortable state.

4) Buying Attention (Supplication)

We all know about this one, buying girls drinks etc in order to buy conversational time with them. Unfortunately its not quite as simple as that. Exceptions may be when; if you don't offer a girl a drink once you've already established attraction and are now into rapport building then you run the risk of appearing selfish or tight to her, which is not exactly attractive eh.
In all, use your best judgement to decide when you're supplicating or when you're just being a decent bloke.

3) Chasing too early

If a girl gives you negative responses, conveys negative bodylanguage and this is sincere don't try to win her over or chase her, cut your losses and move on. If its apparant she's just 'playing hard-to-get' this is of course different and so you should play along without giving too much away too soon.

If however you give her negative bodylanguage simulated or not by for example turning your back to her when she says something you dissapprove of and she begins to chase you or goad you for a reaction and then apologises then treat this as a positive thing, she's seeking validation from you.

2) Qualifying

'Yeah so, when I was driving over here in my Ferrari to meet you...' Don't uneccessarily brag or add irrelevancies to a story/conversation in order to boost your ego. This is approval seeking and its easy to spot when people are doing this. If you notice a women doing this then you can use this to your advantage as she's seeking approval from you.

If you've done amazing things in you're life, are successful are an amazing guy etc, then if you've got a good wing man, he will bring this up on your behalf, demonstrating to the set what an awesome guy you are. This also indicates you are modest which many women find attractive, many women can also detect quiet confidence within a man anyway. So leave the approval seeking guy to talk about how many Ferraris he owns so that he can massage his own ego in order compensate for the fact he has an incredibly small penis. (Bless)

1) Pecking

Leaning in to hear a women speaking, then leaning in further to say something to her, in a back and forth motion. This subcommunicates that she has the dominant power in a conversation, what she is saying is percieved to be of more importance than what you have to say. Instead lean back, talk louder if necessary so that the conversation appears more evenly split or get her to lean in further toward you if you wish. If she's not leaning toward you and you're having to lean in to hear her then tell her to speak louder so you don't have to do this.

Long post I know, but I felt it was worth sharing as some of the points were helpful to me.

That was a long post but it's worthy to read.
That was very informative, some of these should be done by a woman not a man. I think guys who use filler words are guys who are lacking of self confidence. lols
I think buying attention and qualifying have same in common, I hate someone talking like they own the world. Thanks for the post dude!

I've got a few thoughts on this...

This isn't a criticism more how this can be misinterpreted. Sometimes I like to go off on a random tangent but if you stick to simple answers you're going to appear pretty boring. So don't try and be clever and think of an amazing answer but if you have a random trail of thought triggered by the question then follow it otherwise you'll be Mr dull simple answers.

While I agree you should keep this in mind I don't think it's true all the time. You can go up to a girl and pick her up (literally!)and be successful, that's definitely showing positivity straight away. You can go up to a girl and grab her hand or touch her hair and compliment her and things will go great, I think it's down to your style and how you are feeling.

I don't think leaning in is such a bad thing because it shows you are interested but don't do it all the time hang back too. If you constantly stay back she might think you are not into her so when you do go in for the kiss it'll seem weird because you have been mr aloof all night. When you lean in touch her but with intent then when you do go in for a kiss it won't seem weird.

Tom I agree with you 100%, these are not my own views but the views of others and like you I don't necessarily share some of those views. Each interaction is different and has to be calibrated accordingly and like you say how you operate your game.

However for me the most interesting part of the article is that if you notice the girl doing several of these things then you can assume interest.

While a lot of this study of bad body language is worthwhile thinking about and working on (especially if you think it is noticeable awful), while in a set one's head can overflow with thoughts of 'how's my body language, how should I be standing, do I look like a chump’, etc. and actually make you feel and look uncomfortable (I've had this problem before).

I am becoming more of the opinion that a carefree/confident attitude - inner game - is the best element of ones self to work on and will breed a more rounded attractive character to girls.

Thinking too much is my biggest hurdle.

Deffo! You don't really want to be going through a checklist in your head while talking to someone because you will not be in the moment.

You could just assume she's interested anyway no matter what she does, then you won't need to look out for these and you won't be dependant on her opinion of you, you'll be like "of course she likes me i'm the coolest mutha fucker on the planet!"

Indeed! I'm certainly not in that frame of mind by any means yet, but that is exactly the state of mind I wish to instill - i.e. not thinking!

I've spent my whole life wondering if this girl or that girl 'likes me'. It's a constant battle with your ego and any flurry of excitment/hollow confidence from recognising an IOI evaporates as you end up looking out for further validation as the doubts creep in again... and you end up at square one yet again.

I'm right with yer there mate! Always questioning my self if she likes me, or am I worthy? There is a big part of me that is screaming 'FUCK yes I'm worthy! This girl would be incredibly lucky to be with a guy like me!' And then theres the voice of doom! 'I'm a pathetic human being that has never really being able to get what he wants so why will he ever be'. It's a constant battle and it's almost enough to drive me insane. But I will prevail! Ohh yesss.

You are worthy! Ignore the voice of doom it's your inner chode trying to fuck you up!

Cheers mate!
Yeah I know. He's really startin to piss me off!