This argument is never ending, there's no right answer and people are successful with both, but I'll give my opinion, thoughts and technique.

If a girl is too scared to answer the phone to you, she's not likely to want to meet up with you in person from a text convo.

Most guys that get a number are too scared to ring a girl and talk to her, by doing so you show you have balls and are more confident than them.

If a girl does answer her phone to your call, your in control and can make her laugh, build comfort get a date, remind her that your fucking awesome and have her thinking about you constantly in a much shorter period of time, than trying to do it by txt.

Initiating text conversations is needy, she's having to reply to you and your taking her precious time ect, making a phone call and having a chat is sharing each others company and your giving that to her on your terms.

I always ring between 7-9 in the evenings, unless I have specific reason to do otherwise.

Either way text or call your going to get flakes, where they don't answer or reply, don't blame it on the method, to many other things it could be, the biggest one being your initial interaction wasn't good enough.

Personally I hate texting, I tell girls this and tell them I will ring them instead, so they know I'm going to do so and not to bother texting me ten times a day as I just wont reply. This shows I'm not needy, my time is precious and I do things on my terms.

The fact that girls find the initial thought of speaking to you on the phone a little uncomfortable and scary is good and works in your favour. Before they answer they will have a little rush of excitement, be a bit nervous and unsure of what's going to happen, much like if you approach them in street or whatever. You want to be the person who excites them, not the guy who becomes a chore to reply to and she has little connection to. On this point exciting texts are good but the content is still more powerful if you say it (i.e Phil's I'm going to fuck you hard or whatever).

Texting has it's place and I do it occasionally and as many people have mentioned, it's handy for telling if she is able to answer the phone, but all in all do what I can to avoid it as much as possible as I find it's time consuming, annoying and has few real advantages over making a call.

Sums it all up for me Breaker.

I think the calls are a thing of the past.

If she doesn't pick-up the phone, you're left with the awkward option of leaving a voice mail or trying again later if she doesn't call. Even if she picks up, you're very likely to catch her when she's busy.

I prefer by far the option of texting because I'm lazy and because lazy is a good thing at this point: a casual 'Are you up for a drink on wednesday or thursday night?' is more than enough. It subcommunicates that you got other things to do with your life (other girls to see too) than spending time on the phone.

You shouldn't have to do it. Not by text, not by phone convo. You already should have made a strong enough impression in the first place without having to patch it on the phone.

Agreed. text conversations are lame. keep it to the bare essentials: where and when are you meeting next. That's all that matters.



Simply because the only point of using your phone (or any other means of communication for that matters) is simply to arrange the logistics of your next real-life encounter. If you use your phone for anything else than setting the date, it reveals flaws in your game.

Phone game never turns shit into gold.

Actually, I use Facebook messages rather than phone numbers. There are obvious advantages to using Facebook, for one I remember who the hell she was. When you collect a dozen phone number and you wake up the next morning which one of these was the hot blonde, you regret not asking for her FB instead.

Write notes on the piece of paper or add notes to the number in your phone I do it all the time, not because I get drunk but sometimes I forget, its easy to do. Or even better take a photo a million ways of getting one I have to confess I don't do this but it did occur to me a few weeks ago, that I should start doing it.

As I said before, no right or wrong answers, just giving my personal thoughts, which are heavily skewed by an irrational dislike for texting.

I think most people have flaws in their game and a lot of the time logistics and external factors stop you from making the interaction as good as it could have potentially been. Also I meet girls when I go out drinking so it's good to show that my confidence isn't just based on having a drink inside me.

For voice mails if I leave one, which I often don't bother, it's short and simple. Hey it's *My Name*, just giving you a ring for chat like I said would, ok bye.

I'll usually try twice on separate evenings, if there is no answer or reply it's a flake.

Easy, don't bother leaving a message.

Ring on a weekday or sunday evening then.

I have done all that.

Then I just started sending a standard text message saved in my phone. Litterally the same for any girl, got 100% responses. Less is more.

Same when I met my LTR, Short and straight to the point message asking her out two day later.

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Again, less is more.

I prefer texting people, period. If I want to meet my friends I text them. If I want to meet up with a girl I will text her.

I like to get to the point, phone calls leave to much time for idle chatter for my liking.

Each to their own though!

Make your own rules which suit you and let girls apply to them....

Some will disagree, but do I care if you do I've started using voicemail shock, horror and if its done right I believe there is a place for it . I got frustrated with the amount of girls not picking up, it happens. So I brain stormed a few ideas with a female friend.

I've done this twice so far and its worked twice hardly a test but I'll keep field testing to say a dozen times and see where I'm at. Its basically a straight out of left field alternative to leaving a short needy message hi its needy me and after last night hoping bla bla, call me AFC The alternative is a long not short message, funny not needy cocky not oneitisee message.

So what I do is first work out what I'm going to say then call the voicemail leave a rambling long message that is very funny then hang up. here's the clever bit, I'm hoping she is not busy and is just avoiding my call so she'll dial the voicemail starightaway and if I've done it right she'll laugh at the cocky, left field message. I'll give her a few minutes then call her back if its worked she's still be smiling and she'll pick up, even if she was busy she'll remember. I hope

I'm sharing becuase I've had success with it, suppose it depends on your style though.