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Default Limiting Beliefs - 05-03-2011, 07:54 PM

This one's for the inner game, self confidence and self esteem guys.


Limiting Beliefs

Limiting beliefs are defined as a pervasive thought believed by a person that holds them back and thus limits them from achieving something they would otherwise want.

These can be anything from the belief that you're unfit or not capable of running - limiting an overweight person from being able to lose weight.

It could be the belief that you eat, eat and eat but don't put weight on - limiting your ability to gain weight and thus remaining unhappily skinny.

The truth is that neither of the above are true in almost all cases, I'm seen a 25st man run 10 miles without stopping, sure, he threw up twice along the way but he kept on going. He did not believe that his body was incapable of it and therefore it wasn't. The body is capable of amazing feats.

Underweight people will regularly use the excuse that they eat "loads and loads" but never gain weight. Most of the time this is completely false, many people completely overestimate how much they eat, they may eat a great deal at a time in one sitting while not eating regularly or normally at other times, thus creating this false belief. When they actually count the calorie intake of what they do eat it clearly shows that they eat on average below what they ought to be eating in order to gain weight.

Limiting beliefs in those seeking to improve their ability to attract others are many! One such belief that's absolutely embedded into society is that looks are incredibly important to attaction - they're not. Other common problems I see include approach excuses such as "He/She's probably a bitch/dick anyway" - a belief caused by the fear of an aggressively harsh response.

In order to escape limiting beliefs first you have to acknowledge that that's all they are, I could write pages and pages on this like others have tried to but there really is NO amount of writing that can solve the issue for you. What you need to do is acknowledge that it's not true and push yourself through it. Limiting beliefs commonplace in those new to self improvement are usually down to confidence and self esteem, no amount of reading can solve these things, no amount of thought on the matter will change it. What you have to do is go out there and prove to yourself that they're false, you have to have micro-epiphanies and change the way your brain works.

The biggest thing I can say regarding limiting beliefs is not to let this go in one ear and out the other, this is covered a lot in pua and seduction but it's not purely a part of that world, it is commonly used by qualified professional psychotherapists and is a very real phenomenon. Don't write it off as the usual pua "push yourself" rhetoric, it's very true and the ONLY way you can fix these problems is by gaining first hand experience that proves your limiting beliefs false. This takes time and I teach my students over 10 weeks for this very reason, you won't break down these beliefs instantly, they're usually imprinted pretty deep due the the little voice in your head but give it time and it WILL change. Don't shun the concept or give up because the problem hasn't gone away in just a few days. WORK AT IT!

Most of all though you need to stop reading about your problems, stop staring at this screen reading what is usually very similar advice given out in different ways over and over again, get out there and do something, nothing will change if you don't take action to change it.
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Default 06-03-2011, 04:02 AM

sounds like a lame sales pitch, but some beliefs that may seem limiting are not needed to be broken though, like tonight I went to a chav filled bar with lots of girls and my belief was they were all false/goldigger/boring whores, this was fairly accurate after opening about 4 sets, I wasn't attracted to any of the girls there and my state plummeted. 10 minutes later I went to a slightly alternative bar kissed three girls within 10 minutes and spent the rest of the night with an amazingly cool girl I really like, glad I didn't just put it all down to limiting belief's and realised that some places have more girls I'm attracted to.

p.s I'm a little drunk so no rational thought went into this post
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Default 06-03-2011, 11:53 AM

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sounds like a lame sales pitch
It's not a sales pitch at all, you're preplacing that opinion on it because, like the rest of this forum, there's been bad eggs who've created a negative opinion of anyone on the commercial side of attraction. That's fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion, I hope you're open minded enough to hold back such a thing until proven otherwise though. I make the point that it isn't just a lame pua theory because it's been written about by almost all of the major companies. It shouldn't be dismissed simply because it's commonly spoken of, it's commonly spoken of because it's also used medically. I tell people to get out and do something, ANYTHING because, here(and everywhere else) people are apathetic, they sit behind their screens reading and do nothing to actually help themselves. I'd wager that there's twice as many lurkers as actual members of this forum which is fairly well supported by the guest to online user ratio. People need waking up.

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my belief was they were all false/goldigger/boring whores, this was fairly accurate after opening about 4 sets, I wasn't attracted to any of the girls there and my state plummeted.
You did however take the time to be certain of this first rather than just assuming the worst of them and moving on. For all you knew they could have proved you entirely wrong and you could have had an amazing night with one of them, this wasn't the case in your situation but you at least did something about it rather than just accepting the thought.

As for your state plummeting, I can't see why you'd be so affected by some girls that you clearly didn't care about at all, nothing bad came of it and nothing.

Technically what you've referred to here isn't the same kind of limiting beliefs I'm talking about but I suppose they can be similar. What you refer to is a kind of situational limiting belief that crops up, such as "I bet they're bitches", what I refer to are the limiting beliefs placed on the self, such as "I'm no good with women" or "I'm ugly and therefore can't be attractive".

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Default 06-03-2011, 01:53 PM

Hey, was a bit drunk when I wrote that, I'm not wanting to hate. The content you wrote is pretty accurate and I do agree with it. I disagree with parting with money to learn pick-up or attraction or whatever you want to call it and like this forum for the fact that it is not commercial and I don't have to listen to douches touting their revolutionary systems or life changing boot camps.

State went down because the bar sucked, I was bored as shit, wanted some hot girls and let negativity get the better of me. I consciously realised it as it started happening, which didn't help much but started to take action to reverse it.

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Default 06-03-2011, 03:57 PM

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I don't have to listen to douches touting their revolutionary systems or life changing boot camps.
Don't worry mate, neither do I! I'm not doing anything revolutionary compared to any other company out there, the only difference between me and them is my ethical grounding. It's gonna suck having to bring this up on the forum every time for a while, til people realise that my ethics are very different to the majority's. I'm not here to market nor shove anything down anyone's throat.

I don't personally believe there's anything wrong with being commercial - you can learn guitar free yet there's nothing wrong with having a tutor. There's definitely things wrong with the way some go about it though.

I'm not doing anything revolutionary nor do I want to sell to anyone experienced. I'll say that quite clearly, it's absolutely pointless getting onto a course like mine (or pua industry bootcamps for that matter) if you've been doing this for longer than a few months(properly). Don't buy from me, I'll turn away anyone that I know to have more than a certain amount of experience.

What sucks is that defending what I do looks like further attempts to sell.

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