I genuinely can't be bothered to reply to that lol. You make some brilliant points, but most of it is just twisting my words into your own.

I believe in being more attracted to one person than another, because it is simply what happens.

Genuinely, on my life, you're WAY OFF with the Adam Lyons part. Seriously, way off.

Also you're wrong about the whole ego-wanking thing.

Feel free to tell me how you're not, tell me how you know more about me than I know about myself, keep reading my mind and typing out a full novel on how my mind works.

No mate, I'm done.

I'm just curious... what did Adam Lyons ever do to you? Who SHOULD I have said, to really impress you, really make the most of this social-proof thing?

Yeh,

Who the fuck is Hellcat, the cunt,

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Hellcat x

IMO Adam Lyons is a good salesman. I've read a lot of his articles and its obvious he is a very intelligent guy. It's also my opinion he is not very good with women. He comes across as very friendly, social & high energy - but to me he just seems like the kinda guy a woman would want as their best pal, not sleep with.

If you google it, there is also a lot of rumours that the reason he now lives in the states is because he went bankrupt a while back in the UK after failed business ventures & was barred from being a Director which significantly impacts his ability to run his own business. There's also a rumour that his marriage to his "wife" Amanda Torres isn't real - its just an act for his business.

This is just my opinion & hear say, but as with 99% of PUA's I don't think he has even a quarter of the success with women he claims.

in terms of "Who should I have said to impress?" & reference to social proof - how about nobody & forget about it? You shouldn't be trying to impress anyone, definitely not woman, add in this nonsense about social proof and these are just both ego fuelling behaviours. Generally this is the type of thing attention seekers, narcissits (sp - can't be bothered googling it) & those who are insecure or have low self esteem look at doing in order to give themselves a boost.

4oD - The Rules of Seduction

I watched this Chanel 4 documentary sometime last year and this thread made me remember it. So I watched it again.

Adam Lyons features quite heavily in it.

I found the whole thing pretty tragic and at times made for difficult viewing but it's interesting as it does give some insight into what makes these guys tick so I would recommend it, if only from a cautionary perspective.

Highlights include;

Adam speaks of his bad relationship with his mother and whilst he doesn't go into details he does follow it up with the comment that you should 'never chase a bad set'. It's as if he literally views every social interaction with women through PUA tinted glasses. He also justifies his ability to drop interactions when they don't go his way as his 'edge'. For me this is quite a damaging outlook to have when interacting with women. I remember catching myself being like this sometime ago and it made for a very uncomfortable time for me.

This is backed up even more when he has the Skype conversation with his girlfriend Amanda. After commanding her to get her pet dog he turns to the filmmaker and confirms he is gaming her and using frame control. He then says that he's not even sure if he likes her anymore, yet when she returns he belies none of his true feelings for her. There is no shred of authenticity from him, he is a liar and a manipulator. I feel sorry for his girlfriend as she seems to genuinely like him.

When asked by the filmmaker what he wants 'to get out of all this' he replies that he just wants to be 'the best pickup artist in the world'. Take from that aspiration what you will.

He approaches a group of girls while with his girlfriend on the beach and then uses her phone to get their numbers. Whilst she tries to brush it off her face looks pretty crushed. It's the most disgustingly cuntish behaviour in the whole show. The guy comes off as an absolute prick who cares about no one but himself.

This is why I don't think this is the type of person anyone should be learning how to get 'good' with women from.

The whole segment with Ian was literally car crash TV. I felt sorry for this guy, he was the perfect patsy for PUATraining to sink their claws into. The segments where the guys had to role play with Kezia Noble were the most cringe worthy moments of the show.

Darren's story was equally tragic. He'd invested absolutely everything into PUA and whilst it did pay some dividends in so much as he could pull he literally had nothing else going for him. No job, money, house, friends, hobbies or prospects.

Well I got a job now. http://londonescorts.com

No money, no honey!

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Hellcat x

I've heard you give the toothiest blowjob south of the river.

Adam Lyons is Hellcat. Hellcat is a boring troll. I like fun trolls. Dangerous ones who make me feel alive

Barney is one of the ugliest cunts I know and even he can make out with girls sometimes (depending how leathered they are) - so, PUA works. Listen to J Daniels.

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Hellcat x