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Default 02-10-2012, 10:15 PM

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sorry i've gone too technical for some people
Erm Sapmi, you've gone off the reservation son...

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negative and positive arousal, drip fed throughout the interaction....
lol


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Default 02-10-2012, 10:32 PM

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Erm Sapmi, you've gone off the reservation son...



lol
OK this....

"Dale in the Dark, you have gorgeous eyes, so deep and meaningful. You can tell a lot from eyes, yours are prettier than most"<give you a little back rub..... "but, that comment where you think it's too technical, are you really that fucking thick! God I'm ashamed to even be on the same forum as you!"<<pushes you away jokingingly...."hehe, love you really, you're cool, cooler than most for being a bronze donor..."<<<sapmi hugs dale in the dark

Oh and i'm talking about my love for bigmacs in between, so i'm not full on too much


Something like that mate...hope this made you laugh too!! Just something I need to practice dude



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Default 02-10-2012, 11:21 PM

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OK this....

"Dale in the Dark, you have gorgeous eyes, so deep and meaningful. You can tell a lot from eyes, yours are prettier than most"<give you a little back rub..... "but, that comment where you think it's too technical, are you really that fucking thick! God I'm ashamed to even be on the same forum as you!"<<pushes you away jokingingly...."hehe, love you really, you're cool, cooler than most for being a bronze donor..."<<<sapmi hugs dale in the dark

Oh and i'm talking about my love for bigmacs in between, so i'm not full on too much


Something like that mate...hope this made you laugh too!! Just something I need to practice dude
In short, you are going to take the piss out of her in order to not be predictable mr nice guy. Just practice that then, it doesn't have to be complicated and you don't have to change things a massive amount to achieve this. It's a matter of allowing yourself to do it.

I have been improving my piss taking/flirting skills a lot of late. Last week I went on a date with a chick and we were both taking the piss out of each other. It was easily the most fun date I have ever been on. Now this is transferring into my texts to girls. I guess now I am allowing myself to be the fun person I always have been, as opposed to rigid and formulaic.


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Default 02-10-2012, 11:40 PM

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"Dale in the Dark, you have gorgeous eyes, so deep and meaningful. You can tell a lot from eyes, yours are prettier than most"<give you a little back rub..... "but, that comment where you think it's too technical, are you really that fucking thick! God I'm ashamed to even be on the same forum as you!"<<pushes you away jokingingly...."hehe, love you really, you're cool, cooler than most for being a bronze donor..."<<<sapmi hugs dale in the dark
Please tell me that's not the kind of shit you do. Barf.

This thread makes me feel this

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Default 02-10-2012, 11:51 PM

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Please tell me that's not the kind of shit you do. Barf.

This thread makes me feel this

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Mate, just do what you want. You know better. I take advice from the best and actually use stuff and take action, which gets me results. If banging your head gets you results, good luck mate. Yes this is the kind of "shit" i am working on.


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Default 03-10-2012, 10:39 AM

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From experience, the opposite of this is true.


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This phrase makes no logical sense whatsoever. Let you work out why



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From experience, the opposite of this was true.


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Corrected! That was certainly the case back in 2009. I'm glad to have grown in that time. I love going out more than ever now! I keep growing, and learning from my mistakes Still love you man!



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Default 03-10-2012, 12:47 PM

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I have seen you more recently than 2009 and have noticed it has got worse not better.

Over the years you have consistently taken the ideas in PUA material you like and then acted in ways you believe are in keeping with those ideas but you have in each case completely misinterpreted those ideas.


With Natural Tim you were neurotic about state. In the club you would be saying to people "I need more woo" or "I need less woo and more intent". Tim's whole point is you aren't supposed to be thinking about it at all, but you obsessed about it.

With Blueprint you were neurotic about alpha-ness and caused trouble for yourself around town thinking that you had to violently defend inappropriate personal principles of what behaviour you accept. Tyler's whole point was not to bother with stuff like that and to let it pass over you because you can choose to not be affected by other people's bullshit and a key point he makes which you ignored "I don't accept second rate behaviour and that goes for me as well as you".

Then there were the earlier Alex and Jeffy days where you walked away from definite pulls because the girl was the one leading ... leading you to the bathroom for sex ... but you had understood from RSD 'teachings' that you should be leading all the time. Again your interpretation was far too black and white and the opposite of their intention.

Now there is this new Alex video you linked us a few weeks ago. I haven't watched any PUA stuff in a while and gave that a shot. I thought it was really pretty good actually and it seems Alex has matured a little since last time I had seen him in something. You personally raved about this video and said this was your new life guide or whatever and, clearly from your talk of arousal (and other key terms he used in that video) in this thread, you believe that the actions you are currently taking are in keeping with the central message of his speech. Once again, you are, unfortunately, completely mistaken.

The central message is "I am enough". A pretty empowering mantra to have. Something nice to say to yourself when you feel unsure of yourself, e.g. in a moment of hesitation, or when the look of another makes you feel negatively judged. In fact it is such a fantastic principle that if all of a person's behaviour could start with the thought "I am enough" they would probably be a pretty awesome person.

What is clear, even just from your posts in this thread, is that you don't think you are enough; which is saddening.


As to your response. It'll probably be just as silly and transparent as the ones you gave to Phil. For now I shall maintain some hope that a chord has been struck, but from experience the chance of this plea being heard and understood by the intended recipient is pretty close to zero. Though I'm pretty sure the choir will enjoy my preaching.


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K ur like an encyclopaedia of all things said and people on this forum, i hope i never contradict myself, as u will surely give me a time & date specific with a link to said fail.

also ye, being happy with urself is a good mantra.

U also have to not care the outcome of a situation.

sapmi i would try doing the thing i said a while back

spend 1 month blatantly offending girls(not in work or people u know)... at the end of it u should no longer view women on a pedestal.
then just go back to being you. u should notice a subtle yet empowering change.

(make sure u smile every time u do so so they never know if your being serious)


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Default 03-10-2012, 02:38 PM

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spend 1 month blatantly offending girls(not in work or people u know)... at the end of it u should no longer view women on a pedestal.
then just go back to being you. u should notice a subtle yet empowering change.

(make sure u smile every time u do so so they never know if your being serious)
And as long as you stick some positive things in there and vibe. Glad you agree with me mate. I've long since not viewed women on a pedestal, just been a bit neutral in my conversation. As I said, if you're an arshole all the time, or if you're complementing all the time, or neutral, thats can get boring.


@ Kowalski. You're talking absolute bollocks. Basically you are telling everyone here what you think I think, based on seeing me at improv club back in Mayish, when I'd just split up from my girlfriend. Basing your assumptions on such little evidence. Well think what you want. You've never seen me in a nightclub and thank fuck I've made friends outside this community now, by just going out. Thank fuck I can make friends now. Last week in Burnley, didn't have to buy any drinks, just made friends with people, got drinks bought. I'm friends with top DJS, nightclub owners, bouncers. I'm off to Stalybridge next week, on one of the DJs birthdays. Plus I have formed some very close friendships too. You think I'm this shallow weird pickup person. Believe what you want mate, I don't give a shit.

One thing Alex (RSD) did say, is that Premier league sports people, successful people, even though they are enough, still train, still take advice from coaches, exercise scientists etc. All i'm doing is improving myself.


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Default 03-10-2012, 02:59 PM

Mark,

I'm only here because I heard about this thread you had started. To me this all sounds quite sinister, I completely disagree with this passive aggressive approach that you feel will earn you results. Paranoid schizophrenia is not an attractive quality.

I think you should take a massive step-back from PUA for a while and concentrate on more stable and ultimately more fulfilling tasks and duties. It feels a shame to me that you invest far too heavily on PUA as a means of gaining fulfillment in your life. Granted, you listed many items earlier in this thread of things that give you fulfilment in your life, whilst I believe the sincerity of some of those you listed, I think others when more closely examined by yourself are hollow words.

There are far more important things in your life that require more investment than getting your end off with randoms, cheap instant thrills and going clubbing with people half your age.

Your daughter is important to you, enjoy and savor the moments with her, nurture her and encourage her and take fulfillment from that which you teach and inspire her. You're a smart guy so invest more time in developing a successful career that you ultimately enjoy and find rewarding. Reduce your drug use, rely on it less to make you feel positive emotions do not use it as a form of escapism.

I don't think you are in a good place with regard to your fulfillment and general well-being right now. For too long perhaps PUA has been a bit of a comfort blanket to you and you have relied on it too heavily as a way of helping to rid or sort endemic problems you have.

Go back to basics, focus on elements in life that really matter. Self-improvement is not about getting your leg over, it much more encompassing. By definition self-improvement is about improving the 'self' for your own growth and fulfillment it is not a measure of how many girls you can pull or the quality of those girls.

Phil is right 'Girls are not the be all and end all' and Kowalski's above analysis is true.

I see the oddball Raoul Duke is your avatar, he is not the sort of person you should aspire to be. That is an ultimately, unfullfilled, chaotic, loathesome, lonesome existence sprinkled only with moments of hollow titillation.

As an analogy, to built a great sky-scraper, tall, proud, elegant that is considered a jewel amongst the city-scape and the envy of many. You have to do the hard ground work, that means months, potentially years digging in the cold, dark, wet ground just to excavate the earth and lay the foundations. Nobody gets to see the foundations from which the building stands and all the time, money and hard-work that has been invested in creating those foundations. It is those foundations which are ultimately the most important component of that sky-scraper because without them the building could never exist, without them there is only collapse.

Next time I see you, I don't want any PUA talk, just to see you well and moving in the right direction.

One of the best things I did in my life was join this community, I enjoyed the whole experience, I met some great people with great insights some of whom I would call friends. Another good thing I did in my life was to then leave this community before it consumed me.

Style at the end of the game also game to the conclusion that 'Ultimately in the end, it is the woman that decides'. Don't let any charlatan try and tell you otherwise!

I think most people in this community eventually come to this realisation. It is good to see this forum giving good, honest and practacle advice that it always has done, it is by the best I have come across because people genuinely care and look after each other here. It is great to see it distancing itself more away from PUA theory and hogwash and being more concerned with fulfillment and content in ones own life and assisting others to achieve their goals, whatever they maybe.

Take a break from all this Mark, you've earn't it.

Stu (Formerly known as Hustler25)


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Default 03-10-2012, 03:04 PM

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And as long as you stick some positive things in there and vibe. Glad you agree with me mate.
no.

that wasnt the point.


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