Universally unattractive guys
Hi all,
This thread addresses guys who approach loads (like 1000 sets or more a year) and get basically nowhere. No action, no dates, or sometimes even no contact details (though the 3 of these have fundamentally different reasons why). In the realms of cold approach, most guys start to see results steadily improve on a month by month basis. Tom Torero claimed in his "Beginners Guide to DayGame" that it take around 2 years to get consistent action. A lot of pickup advice out there has focused on "techniques" whilst having a socially appealing lifestyle yet doing both cold and warm approaches. However, a lot of it fails to address a big thing - the guys out there, who are not considered "normal." Autism, chronically anxious guys, low social awareness, men who cannot make friends etc. You only have to look at cases like First Person Approacher and Dan Cilley who have published their persistently low par results, to see that guys like that need long term coaching. In fact, the best advice I've lately seen is removing eccentric traits, rather than focusing on techniques. In many ways, game is more about removing things you do wrong, than getting things right. Thoughts? Z |
Was listening a talk by Dr Jordan Peterson today and when responding to someone in the audience he was like..
".....if every woman you approach is rejecting you, it's NOT THE WOMEN" Also, the likes of first person approacher are beyond help. |
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Guys like FPA can change, but being an incel is comfortable and massages their egos. Thus, they are happier to accept their current perception, rather than actually working hard to alter their reality. Guys in severe scarcity who have been like that for a long time, need long term help and effort, assuming their underlying condition isn't totally incurable (and FPA was more intelligent than some would give him credit for). |
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Being precise in my speech and walking/standing straight/confident are the two rules that are always at the forefront of my mind. I'm going to pre-order the sequel. Quote:
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Seeing some of Tusk's coaching videos as well, it felt like he wasn't giving ideal advice. I remember this Australian doctor who was really high energy, but I don't recall them actually trying to slow him down much; they mostly just told him to approach more. |
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To be fair that looks like quite a few years ago, as in, before he released 12 rules.
In his recent streams his room is clean, so he must have finally read the book. |
Not to mention the all beef and pond water diet and the trip to Russia to put his brain in a vat. That'll have set his house in order almost enough to start criticising the world.
Re the James Tusk thing it's kind of a general issue with the bootcamp model in general. There's no way to fix deep ingrained social issues in the space of a weekend. Regardless of how good the advice is or isn't. In terms of people like first person approacher, they have much deeper issues than not being able to get laid, and they're better handled by mental health professionals who are held to some form of professional standard, unlike pickup coaches. |
What on earth does his dietary preferences have to do with it?
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Signs of dishonest and pseudoscientific tendencies. He basically claimed that eating only meat cured him of all his problems and that he was healthy and happy... meanwhile he was jacked up on some pretty heavy farma, crying all the time and eventually decided to temporarily kill himself.
And now he’s immediately back selling the same product without publicly addressing these things appropriately. Peace, kowalski |
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